888: The Simple Life
 

"What are you most disappointed in her about?"

Another great episode.

Here's the thing. When a person responds in a defensive manner no matter what you say
to the point that you have to be constantly explaining yourself, when you thought
you were talking to a friend or at least a mutual acquaintance where both parties should at least be civil,
it can simply get exhausting!

You have to decide whether or not you want to keep having to explain yourself
to a guy who is this neurotic and damaged.
Is it worth it to "kid gloves" this guy, will he come around? Was he abused?
What the fuck is this interns problem?
Maybe you have to get in his face and just tell him to take it down a notch. There's no reason to be so defensive.

Lori and her mom remind me of the way my mom and I are. Chemda and Keith are always talking about how they can't be themselves around their parents but I think that Lori can. Her mom seems very cool and that was a fun show.

When I first moved to Detroit the amount of bullet-proof glass was very surprising to me. I grew up down South and, while I had traveled the country, I had never seen the level of it that I saw (see) in Detroit. How are you supposed to return fire effectively from behind those ridiculous set-ups?

Not even 10 seconds in.
 

Holy ballz, they got a divorce? Yeah, his child molester thing was stupid.

Great show!

Lori's mom was delightful! Being a fellow Minnesotan it was a very relatable show. Many of the things she said / way she talked reminded me of my family and old people round here, very wholesome. Kinda a short show, and a little dull for me, but always appreciated. Go Leroy MN!

Ok, this Chris is pro-child molester thing has to stop. Just because you want him to be unreasonably liberal does not mean he is. His point, if you listened, was that everyone is innocent until proven guilty and that gun toting justice is bullshit. You can't just kill people whenever you want, no matter what they do - people will live in fear and history proves that societies in which people live in fear do not work. People become violent and destructive themselves. The death penalty is effective but the key is to use it sparingly.

If anything was retarded, it is that you make Keith the bastion for your own beliefs and make Chris the enemy as the token liberal. Keith and Chris are very good friends who meet in the middle on most things. Chris was trying not to get into a debate about it because, simply, it wasn't that funny to us. We're new parents who were confronted with thinking about child molesters for the first time as parents. Cut us some slack.

So stop it.

My First and Last Post (until someone pisses me off again).
Lori

Well said Lori, it just goes to show that people on the Internet so easily lose perspective.

I lol'd.

I don't like you anymore.

I'm not sure who died and made her queen bitch of the forums, but making your first post as "You guys need to stop posting about... blah blah blah", is quite the bold move. Because, frankly, as long as we are talking about the show in question, anything goes and we don't really have to stop shit.

SMACK DOWN FAIL!!!!

"Keith's Justice" pissed me off the moment I heard it, and it pisses me off every time Keith mentions it. Don't just assume that everyone on here blindly kowtows to Keith. I disagree with him on many, many things (his argument with Chemda about gays in the military made me FURIOUS).

And it was not Chris's views on Keith's Justice I had a problem with. I agree with him in that regard.

Correct me if I am wrong, but as I remember it, Keith asked if Chris had any problem with child molesters being forced to put themselves on a list. Chris said he didn't like "labeling" people like that, and he believed people could be rehabilitated. I'm fairly liberal, and I found that to be bananas. Maybe I missed the part of the conversation where he took that back, but I'm pretty sure that's what was said. Based on personal observations and reading the observations of others, I vehemently disagree with the idea of not having child molesters make it exceedingly clear that they did what they did, and the same goes for the notion that they can, in any way, be rehabilitated.

If I misinterpreted, misheard, or inaccurately remember Chris's views, I sincerely apologize. I meant no personal offense, I was just expressing in an exaggerated internet fashion that I disagree with someone.

Anything doesn't go. It isn't a matter of stop posting on the subject, but to have a bit of fucking respect when dealing with an actual person.

It may been Lori's first and last post but "Queen Bitch" doesn't fly with me. The internet is giving people a bit too much bravery lately.

Lately? LOL

And I apologize for nothing.

I didn't ask for one...Just trust you would never manage to say that shit around me for real.

Fair enough.

LoL "lately"

Update: damn I was beat to it O well

Liberals :rolleyes emoticon:

Ok - I guess it wasn't my last post. I didn't realize when you posted you got responses to your email and now I read this and feel like I have to respond b/c you were so nice! :)

I'm perhaps too protective of Chris and my family boundaries, which is why I've never stepped into the forum world before this. Seeing Chris trashed in the forums for this really got to me. I took all of this personally. I forget it's the internet and that we're supposed to be playing a part and that you don't actually know us. Because we don't generally put ourselves out there to be commented on and are very new to the internet name calling that ensues, I was perhaps a bit sensitive to all this, and am incredibly protective of Chris, who is involved in all this because of me.

He came home that night and was beating himself up because he didn't feel like he articulated his point at all. Of course child molesters are awful and we should do everything we can to not have them around children - but putting them on a list is not working; therefore does not make sense. We need to look for a better solution. As for rehabilitation, if we stop studying this mental illness and hoping for a cure, we may not learn how to avoid it happening in the first place. Clearly, there isn't a cure for child touchers and I would like them as far away from my family as possible - but the same used to be true for lepers. Hope advances societies and not just when it's convenient and pretty.

Chris is really a thoughtful guy and cares about what's going on in the world. It's hard to have a debate when you 1) aren't prepared 2) haven't really formulated what your thoughts are on an issue. 3) Have a new angle on a debate, ie, becoming a dad. 4) have had a lot to drink.

Apologies to you for attacking. I should have kept a clearer head. Sleepless nights with the wee one make for a testy mood!

First off, I have a family and I do understand the need to set those boundries.

Second, we do have some serious debates on the forums, but there will always be the odd joke or potshot taken. If nobody takes a shot at you, it probably means nobody is reading your posts.

Third, it sucks you in, doesn't it?

I understand completely.

I think keeping the forums in the proper perspective is helpful; for example, all of us anonymous assholes constantly find myriad things to bitch about in regards to Keith and Chemda, and yet we all love them to bits and pieces. As such, I disagreed with Chris on a single point of his views on law, but it was and remains my opinion (based on the brief exposure I've had) that you two are a phenomenal couple, and Chris is a good, concerned person and a great father.

We forum dwellers harp for far too long on the negative sides of things. Think of it this way: if this extremely critical bunch of jerks can only find fault with a philosophy of punishing crime, we picked every other aspect apart and could find nothing else wrong.

And you were right to protest what we said. A blanket condemnation of someone's husband as "retarded" with no explanation or addendums can only be taken offensively. In typical internet fashion, I forgot that my internet persona has the ability to offend. I apologize for taking time out of your day solely because I had to take a harsh jab at a good person.

One thing I thought was interesting about this episode was about Chemda contradicting herself, saying she doesn't understand how people in rural areas grew up because she grew up in a New York lifestyle. Yet not five minutes later, she articulates quite well how Keith grew up in a rural setting, and seemed to have a good understanding of that. To me, it seemed like just because she didn't understand Lori's upbringing doesn't necessarily mean she doesn't understand it at all, because she can tell you more about Keith's upbringing than he can.

Get out while you still can!

Good ear! That bitch so played herself! Oh, she says she can't appreciate the scenic, empty country, but then she turns around and says how she's heard about and even been to the country herself! Well which is it, honey?!

Oh, now you don't have a clever quip. How interesting...

Great episode!

I almost veered my car off the road from laughing so hard when Lori's mom said she was down on her knees a lot when Lori was a teenager and Keith replied "yeah she was down on her knees a lot too". So funny!

I don't think her mom got it.

That's part of the reason I never want children. I would always be eyeballing people wondering to myself, "Ok, which one of these fuckers is thinking about fiddle-diddling my kid."

Definitely some scary shit

Me and my dad act identical to how Lori and her Mom get along. Great show.

Oh she got it. It's like when you take a chick to a bar. She's hears every time you offer to buy another drink, but she can't seem to hear you when you ask for a hand job in the bathroom.

I guess the earlier generation never gave hummers.

She knew just fine.

Keith, show works better than tell. I've heard.

I moved from Las Vegas to this little town outside of Tulsa OKlahoma, and it's very much small-towny like Lori's mom had mentioned. Hell, our family exchanges gifts with the garbage man every christmas. It's weird being on a first name basis with pretty much everyone who lives here.

who's mom is cooler? Lori's mom or Mcnallys mom?

Oh yeah she is pretty awesome too.

episode help, please
 

Can anyone tell me what episode # was it that is being referred to in regards to Chris/Lori were guests and the talk about child molesters? I must have missed it and I would like to go back and give it a listen?

:o

Part 6 of the 74-Hour Podcast

The Record-Breaking 74-Hour Podcast - recorded July 2008 - Keith and The Girl Free Comedy Talk Show

Oh Jeremy...

You're referring to Show 866: Watch Your Kids

Click on the guest you're thinking of at KATG.com, and you'll find the show you need much easier.

:eek: Did Keith just school the resident aspie?! Say it ain't so!

listening to this 2 years later I think Chemda gave an accidental clue that her and Keith had already broken up. I really should have noted what time it was on the episode so I could have gone back and quoted what she said but I think she used past tense when talking about their realationship with Lori.