891: Drink the Fat

[Keith]

"You got something to say to this prick?!"

[Skyler]

I just started listening but had to chime in on the question about Chemda freaking out on tape. How about Keith and The Girl Live on a Big Boat (keithandthegirl.com/store) when she kicked over drinks and ripped up cards when she lost at poker. Or Keith and The Girl TV when Rock 'em, Sock 'em Robots sounded like bowling. Yeah, i think she could freak out.

[spooky]

Keith doesn't believe in acting, not in the sense that people usually play anything beyond whats in the natural range of their own personality. We all agree, right?

That said, Keith gives Bale shit for being intense at a guy who fucked up and ruined a long pivotal scene twice in one day(a guy getting paid millions himself who cant do his job, apparently). So if I am reading him right, for Keith to have liked Batman and American Psycho(and Bale), Keith wanted a more Mr. Mackey from South Park impression.


"Hey kids, I'm Batman, mmkay? I'm here to fight crime, 'cause crime is baaad, mmkay?"

"I can't believe Bryce prefers VanPatten's card to mine, mmkay? And lets see Paul Allen's card, mmmkay? Oh my, look at that watermark, mmkay? Cards are baaad, mmmkay?"

"Hey there Mister DP, ruining scenes is baaad. Time is money and my reputation, mmkay?"

Or maybe for the Machinist, instead of dropping to 100 pounds or so, a less intense Bale should have maybe just dropped 10 on the Body for Life program.(or 10 ounces on the WiiFat)

On the DVD extras Keith proposed, when they cut to the little girl's graduation and shes crying because daddy's not there, I hope they also show her get into her pink Porsche and drive off to attend Oxford on daddy's dime. "waaah!"

Meanwhile, I like Bale as he is, intense. And if I wander onto a set with him, or god forbid, have to work with him and get paid millions of dollars, I am not going to be offended when I find out he doesn't talk to everyone like babies when they act like babies. I don't have a problem with creative people butting heads with others, I don't have a problem with people NOT talking to eachother like children. Theres a huge difference between conveying anger over a fuck up on the set that compromises the work and sitting back and watching someone tearing articles out of your Maxim magazine.



or maybe i have it all wrong. /shrug

[Bucho]

Bale was a douche for carrying on so long but that DP, supposedly an experienced proffesional earning big bucks, deserved a bollocking for fucking up in such a big way twice in one day. I don't give a shit what an actor is like behind the scenes as long as he entertains me when I pay my 15 bucks at the door and so far Christian Bale is damn near aces.

[brizzlewizzle]

Bale is a fuckwit. The problem with actors is, they know that once there is certain amount (anymost any) of footage in the can, they know they cannot possibly be fired.

Check out this clip, at about 1:54. Funny stuff.

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[Keith]

Oh Spooky, you creepy weirdo...

It's okay that we don't like the same movies. Don't let it anger you. Batman was brilliant. I take it all back. I just realized that Batman represented Jesus at his moment of doubt, The Joker represented Satan offering all the kingdoms of the world, and Two-Face represented World War II. It was very deep, Adult.

Secondly, you Texan queer, your making my point by saying how all Bale's roles are him being an intense weirdo. You're right. They are. Just like him in real life.

But he is good. That gravel Batman voice was beyond aces.

They just butted heads on the set? Am I out of the loop and that's what people consider a comfortable work environment?

And I don't think I compared the director of a play we did to the Terminator set, but since you brought it up, of course they're the same thing. Both are extremely unprofessional moves.

"Waaah! Daaddy wasn't there for you? But he gave you a car!" You'd make an excellent parent, Spooks.

Fuck you, you mother fuck!

(Don't take any of this personal. That's just how mature professional adults communicate.)

[Roca]

Damn straight, Spooky. When a fucker cuts me off in traffic, I break out my 9mm and blast the shit out of him. Cause we all know there's no middle ground between that and doing nothing.

[brizzlewizzle]

From the sound of it, I also don't think the DP went in shot, I think he was just adjusting a light behind the camera and distracted Bale. If Bale is a "professional" actor, he should be able to handle a bit of movement behind the camera.

Does everyone else get to go apeshit a Bale when he spends 5 hours fucking up his lines and forcing reshoots all day?

[spooky]

Originally Posted by Keith

(Don't take any of this personal. That's just how mature professional adults communicate.)

I like Michael Bay, too, hes the same way. It just doesn't bother me if someone yells. Not when you're being paid a real wage, anyway.

If he was yelling at some hourly employee, fuck Bale, then. But he wasn't, he was yelling at an artistic collaborator who should be equally passionate about his work.

This reminds me of Art school, when we had class critiques of our work. You had to drag anything negative out of people, they were embarrassed to have anything but praise for others. It meant that nobody addressed their flaws, everyone got a huge head about how great their work was, and it was all shit. And when anyone finally said anything negative, it was like this personal attack, this crushing offensive blow that left people nearly in tears and staring at their feet. Like children.

If you're still a child and cant handle people calling you out on your shit, stay home, where its safe. The world would be a much better place if all creative people were like Bale, and handed their ass to anyone who wasn't progressing their art.

You're right about the intensity of Bale, though. That's what sells him, at least to me. And I don't take it personal.

[brizzlewizzle]

Originally Posted by spooky

If he was yelling at some hourly employee, fuck Bale, then. But he wasn't, he was yelling at an artistic collaborator who should be equally passionate about his work.

I'm sure the guy is just as possionate about his work, I bet he also knows, if he showed anything but subservience to bale he would end up fired for what could either have been a simple mistake or bale just not being able to accept that other people have a job on the set as well.