903: What's Yours is Mine

[sully_04]

Originally Posted by motownguy

Roxy could help out too, lest the image of DJTrashy and myself frighten too many people away. I'm sure seeing Sully seated quietly in the inky shadows of the indoctrination room would be a calming influence as well.

i do have that effect on people. or maybe I just wear them down. they eyes glaze over and they just lay back and let it happen.

at least that's what my wife does.

[Cretaceous Bob]

Originally Posted by sully_04

when you get older, and Im not that old, but have developed the ability to put things in perspective a lot quicker than I would 10 or 15 years ago. Maybe the older set is jaded this way because we didnt have the internet to yell at when we were going through the "my opinions matter and im going to talk loud until some one listens" days, we just dont give a fuck after one or two of these things, especially when I would have to explain myself to take this any further. you win. your the king of opinions, the king of work and the king of money...

Wow dude.

I agree with Keith, and you say I'm wrong. I say why, and you say nothing about me being wrong, it's my tone.

Then when I point this out, you don't actually say anything on the matter, you just ramble about how you have something to say, but you won't.

You're totally right. My handful of original sentences? A burning desire to tell the internet what I think. But you just announcing your opinion and then refusing to back it but still talking about it is completely the opposite.

[sully_04]

Originally Posted by Cretaceous Bob

Wow dude.

I agree with Keith, and you say I'm wrong. I say why, and you say nothing about me being wrong, it's my tone.

Then when I point this out, you don't actually say anything on the matter, you just ramble about how you have something to say, but you won't.

You're totally right. My handful of original sentences? A burning desire to tell the internet what I think. But you just announcing your opinion and then refusing to back it but still talking about it is completely the opposite.

your doing it again.

I said your the king of opinions, you win.

but yet you still want to argue.

when this started I was the jackass for calling you out on that dumbass statement you made about being the king of work and money or something.

i got bored and said you win. (i was mocking you when I did this, im still the asshole at this point)

you wont let it go, the world has to hear what you have to say and how right you are about what ever it is that is coming out of your mouth and what ever thought that pops into your head is spot on and you try to call me out again and wont let it drop even though I have long since conceded the point to you even if I was only doing it because I didnt feel like typing back and was actually done after my first comment.

but you just cant let it go and let the other guy leave the exchange as the jackass, you have to keep opening your mouth and turn yourself into the asshole whether you know it or not. (this was my original point, veiled as it might have been, I didnt fee like explaining it).

so now, your the king of jackasses too.

[Cretaceous Bob]

Originally Posted by sully_04

your doing it again.

I said your the king of opinions, you win.

but yet you still want to argue.

when this started I was the jackass for calling you out on that dumbass statement you made about being the king of work and money or something.

i got bored and said you win. (i was mocking you when I did this, im still the asshole at this point)

you wont let it go, the world has to hear what you have to say and how right you are about what ever it is that is coming out of your mouth and what ever thought that pops into your head is spot on and you try to call me out again and wont let it drop even though I have long since conceded the point to you even if I was only doing it because I didnt feel like typing back and was actually done after my first comment.

but you just cant let it go and let the other guy leave the exchange as the jackass, you have to keep opening your mouth and turn yourself into the asshole whether you know it or not. (this was my original point, veiled as it might have been, I didnt fee like explaining it).

so now, your the king of jackasses too.

You trolled me into an exchange with you, and then I'm a douche when I won't drop it? And I guess I should ignore the fact that you said you were done, and then you returned with the largest post in this exchange yet.

As far as your ridiculous accusations go: I will do what you certainly cannot, and what you say I cannot, by leaving this conversation. What's more, if you do not respond to this post, that is evidence that I shamed you into actually doing what you claimed you were going to do. Good day.

[sully_04]

Originally Posted by Cretaceous Bob

You trolled me into an exchange with you, and then I'm a douche when I won't drop it? And I guess I should ignore the fact that you said you were done, and then you returned with the largest post in this exchange yet.

As far as your ridiculous accusations go: I will do what you certainly cannot, and what you say I cannot, by leaving this conversation. What's more, if you do not respond to this post, that is evidence that I shamed you into actually doing what you claimed you were going to do. Good day.

nope, you dont get the last word.

I do, I win.

im the king of you.

thats all I wanted.

[Coconut]

i feel sad for Mcnally, and that he's leaving. He's one of my favs.

[Cretaceous Bob]

Originally Posted by Coconut

i feel sad for Mcnally, and that he's leaving. He's one of my favs.

Almost makes you wish you could hang him in his garage, huh?

[batlash]

Originally Posted by Kupotek

Sounds like you made a pretty hasty judgment about New York. I mean it's really easy to judge something from a distance when you're not immersed and a part of something, like it sounds like you were in New York. New York can be a really amazing place if you seek it out.

To be fair to McNally - he was in NYC for almost a year, and seemed to be pretty immersed into it all. You just have to realize, that not only is Canada physically different, but so is our mindset. In the states, if 25% of the population demanded equal representation of their 1st language ( other than english ) - they'd send the army in. In Canada, not only did we give the french their rights, but we probably went overboard ( talk to any English Quebecer ). In the US, a big deal was made about having an African-American for President - here in Canada if we had black people they may have made it in ( being the cool kids ), but at least we had a female Prime Minister for maybe 20 minutes. We tend to be more laid back here, more reflective and easy going about life - at least compared to New York. Hell, since McNally left - the sales of bear spray have gone significantly down to the point of where they're considering a government bail-out.

A year in NYC, is enough to understand it - especially compared to a lifetime in the Great White North.

[revenant]

Originally Posted by Sexy_Potatoe_with_an_E

You know you have to pay for samples when you use them in your music. Tradition or not, it is absurd to say that your creation isn't yours. It IS yours and it is up to the artist to decide whether or not he wants someone else to use his music.

For example! In the song Hot Dog by Limp Bizkit, Fred Durst says:

"you wanna fuck me like an animal
you LIKE to burn me on the inside
you like to think i’m a perfect drug
just know that nothing you do will bring you closer to me"

While the lyrics aren't even a direct quote fron Nine Inch Nail's song Closer, it was similar enough and just enough so that Limp Bizkit HAD to give writer's credits to Trent Reznor and pay him royalties. The song was done to pay homage to NIN, of course this is what started the fued between the two bands.

Quite obviously the SONGS ARE COMPLETELY different entities meaning COMPLETELY different things, but when you borrow someone's words/melodies/samples. YOU HAVE TO GIVE THEM CREDIT.

This is why we have quotation marks. If the melody is the same, Coldplay is obligated to compensate Joe Satriani. Plain and simple.

There are actually people who are paid by record companies to listen to your song to make sure you haven't stolen any samples.

Thank you PotatoE for putting it so well.

For someone who claims to know stuff about IP, Matt sounded kinda dumb when he kept repeating that it's not the same song. Of course it's not, but that's not what matters - the test that courts use to determine whether there was copyright infringement is whether there was substantial copying, NOT whether it's a different piece of work. And a melody is pretty fucking substantial. You can have a completely different work that nevertheless copies substantially from someone else. It is infringement of copyright law.

Lev
3rd Year Law Student, currently taking IP law (in Canada but our laws are not so different, just more lax because we're pussies).

[novemberrain2988]

Because i dont know much about them. But i do know alot about a nazis. Like said on the show, nazis were bainwashed and forced to act that way. I will give that some chose to follow Hitlers Ideas, and laws with love, but most of them were forced. Its like, be on Hitlers side, OR get put in a camp...you choose..ya know?..

ehh i dont really know what i am talking about...

But im German ....BUT NOT A NAZIS.