903: What's Yours is Mine

[revenant]

Canadian race relations are not great at all. If you do some research you'll find out just how much they've fucked native people here. Even now many live in reservations that are worse than any city ghetto. And there are plenty of ghetto black people in Toronto. In fact, I've seen some documentary that mentioned that Canada invented ghettos - as far as the style of neighbourhoods and buildings, etc. that you typically find in ghettos.

[rodimusprime]

Originally Posted by revenant

Canadian race relations are not great at all. If you do some research you'll find out just how much they've fucked native people here. Even now many live in reservations that are worse than any city ghetto. And there are plenty of ghetto black people in Toronto. In fact, I've seen some documentary that mentioned that Canada invented ghettos - as far as the style of neighbourhoods and buildings, etc. that you typically find in ghettos.

I'm only talking about the black people. Thanks for all the info though.

[revenant]

Haha, yeah sorry for being wordy. I'm trying to distract myself from work.

[batlash]

Originally Posted by Keith

IF you had black people there'd be no problems with them?

IF.

Very good point.

point.. and counter-point my good friend

Was kidding actually, here in downtown Montreal - we have plenty of all races. A lot of french speaking immigrants come here in droves ( ie- lot of muslims, parts of Africa, etc ).

[batlash]

Originally Posted by revenant

No, you can just call them African.

*LOL* why would we call them AFRICAN rather than AFRICAN-AMERICAN? We tend to refer to them as "black" ( if for some reason we have to refer to them by race ) or by region/country they're from ( such as "trinidadian"). I know my youngest brother is black ( he's adopted ) and he tends to wince at the term "AFRICAN-AMERICAN" because:
1) he's not African
2) he's not American
and African-Canadian just sounds awkward at best.

[batlash]

Originally Posted by rodimusprime

Who me? Nah I'm good. Just saying that if Canadians had done all that foul shit to the black people who lived there then it's more likely they would have problems. I think it's weak for Canadians to act like their race relations are so great when they don't have the same type of history as the US.

Who said that our race relations are perfect? Hell, we stole land from the Indians way before you even got here - and they're still pissed off about it.

I won't even start about our national division by fricken LANGUAGE of all things...

[revenant]

Yeah, I was kidding. We do call them 'black' for the most part, but I just happen to know a lot of guys who are African.

[rodimusprime]

Originally Posted by batlash

Who said that our race relations are perfect? Hell, we stole land from the Indians way before you even got here - and they're still pissed off about it.

I won't even start about our national division by fricken LANGUAGE of all things...

How cute. Ya'll even have diet racism. Or do you call it racism lite?

[batlash]

Originally Posted by rodimusprime

How cute. Ya'll even have diet racism. Or do you call it racism lite?

Racism lite? Do you have a government organization put in place just to make sure that you speak another language in the workplace - or that on signs that english is HALF the size of anything written in french?

[DarkKnightJared]

Y'know, I've never quite got this whole thing about how Canada is infinately nicer. It always felt more of a passive-aggressive form of nationalism then an actual declarative statement.

From McNally's rant about New York, when he gets to how "People never litter in Canada!" and "Canadians know about commonwealth property!" it got particuarly annoying. I'm not saying this as a blast to McNally--from the sounds of it, it's more just you letting steam out after a nasty breakup and homesickness and chosing NYC as your punching bag--but I'm certain that if I had the same amount of problems as he did and lived in a major city another country away, I would find plenty of things to bitch about.

Anyway, to get away from me pratically ranting about someone elses rant, one thing on the show I'm surprised wasn't discussed here was the NYU protest. When I heard about this and reactions from the protesters, I remembered an article from a blog I semi-regularly read called Colihouse about the "Protest Culture." Some young people protest because they have beliefs and genuinely want to change things. Some get an adreduline rush fucking with the man and have a good chance at getting laid. Some even think that it's their job as young people in college to do some sort of protesting.

Praying for Rain: Protest Culture's Gnarled Husk -- Colihouse.net