Diet foods...

[The Godfather]

Originally Posted by zwa

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9ijLulwUTY <- bullshit peta

Interesting video, but nothing new. I don't condone any kind of violence, and I want to keep my pets, but I would also like to buy meat that isn't laced with hormones, or from sick animals.

[zwa]

Originally Posted by The Godfather

Interesting video, but nothing new. I don't condone any kind of violence, and I want to keep my pets, but I would also like to buy meat that isn't laced with hormones, or from sick animals.

yeah, i wasnt too impressed witht the video. I think PETA are a bunch of nut jobs, but i would disagree about P&Ts rant, euthanising animals I have no problem with (presumably that is what they are doing). putting something out of its misery, as it were, is better in my book than killing something to eat it.

[ooda]

Originally Posted by ezmeray

what do you think happens to factory farms chickens when they get past their peak egg-producting age?

They get killed, and I understand it. While just a small gesture, I always try to buy free-range just so the chickens experience a better experience, it's not much, but it's something.

If you really want to get pissed, have a read what they do to racing greyhounds after they're done with racing for a living (literally).

[lamasaurus]

Originally Posted by the big lebowski

oh yeah. there's light everything. as long as there's an original something, there's a "light" version that is out or coming out. like tofu light or reduced calorie celery. i think some of it is just a way for people to sell more shit.

holy crap REDUCED CALORIE CELERY?! celery makes you BURN calories.. because it takes more calories to digest it and whatnot... how is that possible? it's a vegetable. crazy what people are coming up with.

[The Godfather]

[QUOTE=ooda]They get killed, and I understand it. While just a small gesture, I always try to buy free-range just so the chickens experience a better experience, it's not much, but it's something."

There is also a lot of discussion about free range. you don't hear the term to much anymore, (or at least i don't) but free range was a made up term, without any real regulations or definition as to what free range is. On the other hand, if it has a USDA Organic stamp, that you can verify. I think organic meats, especailly poultry has so much more flavor.

[ooda]

It's mainly that my wish would be that free range meant the animal was raised old-school, in that it was raised on a farm and treated humanely. What really pisses me off is when you see a carton of eggs with "Farm Fresh" on the top, as this implies, at least at a glance, that they are free-range. In actuality they are cage eggs that are masquerading as free-range.

With chickens you can really tell the difference between free-range and cage. While the cage hens can get big, the free-range ones will have a better taste, better quality meat, and if you look at the fat, it should have a yellow color as opposed to the white that is on the normal ones.

The humane label is at least a somewhat decent start.

[stjoe]

Originally Posted by ooda

It's mainly that my wish would be that free range meant the animal was raised old-school, in that it was raised on a farm and treated humanely. What really pisses me off is when you see a carton of eggs with "Farm Fresh" on the top, as this implies, at least at a glance, that they are free-range. In actuality they are cage eggs that are masquerading as free-range.

With chickens you can really tell the difference between free-range and cage. While the cage hens can get big, the free-range ones will have a better taste, better quality meat, and if you look at the fat, it should have a yellow color as opposed to the white that is on the normal ones.

The humane label is at least a somewhat decent start.

You didn't really just give tips to a Vegan on how to pick free-range chickens and eggs out, did you?

[ooda]

Originally Posted by stjoe

You didn't really just give tips to a Vegan on how to pick free-range chickens and eggs out, did you?

Beef instead?

[stjoe]

Originally Posted by ooda

Beef instead?

Please.

[The Godfather]

soo true about the lack of regulation on ' free range ' stuff.. some of those animals are still treated so horribly.. is disturbing...

since the 1950's when the supermarket concept took over, the type and quality
(everyone's definition is different) have changed dramatically, but i think the pendulum is swinging back the other way with stores like Whole Foods, Wild Oats, Trader Joes and others. But even the government is scared to endorse Organic meat,

"The USDA cautions consumers that the organic label is not to be confused with or likened to the natural or any other label, and it makes no claims that organically produced food is safer or more nutritious than conventionally produced food.

How can the stuff not be safer? there are no hormones or antibiotics, and since they are slaugtered at the same locations as non-organic birds, how could they not be better? I was reading a study a couple of years ago that documented the declining age that girls first menstruate. The average overseas and other parts of north america was almost TWO years later! (don't quote me on the exact figure) I am not a scientist, but please give me a plausible alternative explanation if it isn't all the crap we give food animals.