KATG iPhone App Take 2

[outlaw]

So, is the App Store the only way we can get the app?

[hayroob]

They hate me

I'll fix the phone button (I have to get an ipod touch so I can test this bullshit, fuck) but I really don't want to restrict streaming the shows to wifi only, that is supa lame (several apps let you stream shoutcast over 3g including safari).

It's also worth mentioning that the phone button was there last time I submitted and they said nothing. Took these fucks 2 1/2 weeks to figure out that they didn't like basic functionality. I am near the limit of my patience with these dummies.

Dear Doug,

Thank you for submitting Keith and The Girl to the App Store. We've reviewed Keith and The Girl and determined that we cannot post this version of your iPhone application to the App Store because it does not adhere to the iPhone Application Programming Guide as outlined in the iPhone Developer Program License Agreement section 3.3.5; "Applications must comply with the Human Interface Guidelines and other Documentation provided by Apple."

On iPod touch, it is not possible to make a phone call, though your application may feature calling functionality. When Keith and The Girl is installed on an iPod touch, the "place call" button appears to depress when tapped. Please see the attached screenshot.

Please take a look at the system call "sysctlbyname" and the section on "CTL_HW" from the Apple provided iPhoneOS reference documentation. It is necessary to check the machine class and machine type to determine if the device is capable of supporting phone calling.

Furthermore, Keith and The Girl cannot be posted to the App Store because it is transferring excessive volumes of data over the cellular network, which as outlined in the iPhone Developer Program License Agreement section 3.3.20, is prohibited:

" If an Application requires or will have access to the cellular network, then additionally such Application:

- Must comply with Apple's best practices and other guidelines on how Applications should access and use the cellular network;

- Must not in Apple's reasonable judgment excessively use or unduly burden network capacity or bandwidth;"

To determine the type and availability of network connections in order to restrict your application to Wi-Fi you can reference the Apple DTS Sample Code Reachability:
<http://developer.apple.com/iphone/library/samplecode/Reachability/index.html>Sign in with your Apple ID - Apple Developer Connection

<http://developer.apple.com/iphone/library/documentation/System/Conceptual/ManPages_iPhoneOS/man3/sysctlbyname.3.html>

In order for your application to be reconsidered for the App Store, please resolve these issues and upload your new binary to iTunes Connect.

Should you require more assistance with resolving this issue, Apple Developer Technical Support is available to provide direct one-on-one support for discrete code-level questions. Please be sure to include any crash logs, screenshots or steps to reproduce this issue in your request.

Developer Technical Support
<idp-dts@apple.com>

Regards,

iPhone Developer Program
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[hypercrypt]

WTF?!

The Phone button should be much easier to fix using:

[[UIApplication sharedApplication] canOpenURL:[NSURL URLWithString:@"tel:+1..."]]

The excessive bandwidth is BS though! There are plenty of apps that use way more data through streaming:
FStream
Tuner
RSSPlayer
...

Just to name a few...

[hayroob]

Ok I've thought about it and I am going to fix the phone button, but then I'm just gonna submit it and resubmit it until they take, I'm not taking stuff out.

[hypercrypt]

How long have you been an iPhone developer? Have you used any of your Code Level Supports yet? Mine are expiring, in less than 50 days, so I've been using them. If I don't need my last one in the next month I am going to use it to ask them to clarify 3.3.20 and what they mean by reasonable. I've asked about the provisioning issue with push (changing between development and production) and was basically told that there isn't a solution at the moment. I am waiting on them to get back to me about 3.1 fixing it or not...

[hayroob]

Just to make something clear, I've been trudging through android for about 2 weeks and even with all this rejection BS, I would still take iPhone and XCode over android's shit box sdk any day of the week.

[hayroob]

Originally Posted by hypercrypt

How long have you been an iPhone developer? Have you used any of your Code Level Supports yet? Mine are expiring, in less than 50 days, so I've been using them. If I don't need my last one in the next month I am going to use it to ask them to clarify 3.3.20 and what they mean by reasonable. I've asked about the provisioning issue with push (changing between development and production) and was basically told that there isn't a solution at the moment. I am waiting on them to get back to me about 3.1 fixing it or not...

The problem is that those guys can point you in the right direction but whatever random reviewer you get has 100% say in what he/she thinks is excessive so even if you do exactly what code level support tells you it doesn't guarantee anything at all.

[Grapist]

Originally Posted by hypercrypt

WTF?!

The Phone button should be much easier to fix using:

[[UIApplication sharedApplication] canOpenURL:[NSURL URLWithString:@"tel:+1..."]]

The excessive bandwidth is BS though! There are plenty of apps that use way more data through streaming:
FStream
Tuner
RSSPlayer
...

Just to name a few...

But do they use the cellular network? It could be fixed by not allowing the streaming if only the 3G network is available (Like Skype does). But if he's just going to keep resubmitting it thinking they will eventually approve it, well, good luck with that.

[hayroob]

Originally Posted by Grapist

But do they use the cellular network? It could be fixed by not allowing the streaming if only the 3G network is available (Like Skype does). But if he's just going to keep resubmitting it thinking they will eventually approve it, well, good luck with that.

They do allow streaming over 3G and so does safari. That is why this is bullshit. I have a persistent data connection on my phone, I want to use it.

[hypercrypt]

The other option would be to limit it to WiFi only but to have a backdoor, such as entering brumski into the message field unlocking the 3G streaming.