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Old 11-03-2010, 05:25 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Methanol has a high toxicity in humans. If ingested, as little as 10 mL can cause permanent blindness by destruction of the optic nerve and 30 mL is potentially fatal,[8] although a fatal dose is typically 100–125 mL (4 fl oz). Toxic effects take hours to start and effective antidotes can often prevent permanent damage.[8] Because of its similarities to ethanol (the alcohol in beverages), it is difficult to differentiate between the two (such is the case with denatured alcohol).

Mix, blend, wait, dispose.
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Old 11-03-2010, 06:24 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I had a useless shit heel in my house I had to get rid of once. I felt guilty because I had once lived with a friend of mine rent free, and I felt like I had to pay it forward. Well, fuck that.

I circled a date on the calendar and I told him that he had to be out by then. He left and didn't come back. He never did anything wrong except live in my house, eat my food, waste my space, and make excuses for why he was so useless. But that's wrong enough for me. Every human in my house pays rent.

He'll probably try one of two things: he'll be on his best behavior so that you feel wrong kicking him out now that he's acting right, or he'll insinuate that you're the last hope he has and that he'll die on the streets. Don't believe him. A drunk always has another bottle, a few more dollars and another friend that you don't know about. They're never as close to death as they would have you think.

Go to Ala-non. They probably won't tell you how to kick him out, but they'll teach you guys how to stop picking up strays and be better examples for your children.
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Old 11-03-2010, 07:29 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Your first mistake was letting someone who has been drunk and homeless for 10 years live with you.

That being said, if you still want to "help" him.
Make living in your home conditional. No drinking, attend AA meetings. I think he might see from some of story meetings that he belongs in that group.
Also set some kind of schedule or him to get back on his feet and out of your home.
If he doesn't go for the conditions or you no longer want to help him, go with the other plans.
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Old 11-04-2010, 12:09 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Can you drop him off at some county hospital or a rehab facility? Seems like he's not going to change whether or not he lives with you. He's burned every bridge so far, so the last good act you could do would be to stick him in a place where he has a chance to dry out before he ends up on the streets (though chances are high he'll end up there no matter what).

I'm sorry your wife has this sack of crap for a dad.
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Old 11-04-2010, 03:55 AM   #15 (permalink)
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In my family it's my brother in-law. He has his own home, but fights with his crack head girlfriend and used to spend the night until I put a stop to it. He will steal booze, prescription drugs and any other psychoactive substance from my house he can find. He and his ex wife lost their two kids and the grandparents are raising them. He still managed to get his daughter to buy him crack that he smoked with her. This year he got drunk and blacked out and got all belligerent at his younger brothers wedding. I had to drag him out of there and babysit him so he did not fuck everything up. I realize that addiction is a disease, but its hard to feel sorry for these asshats. I have some idea what you are going through. Whatever you do don't beat on this idiot, because your wife will blame you and you could end up in jail. You are kind of in a no win situation.
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Your first mistake was letting someone who has been drunk and homeless for 10 years live with you.

That being said, if you still want to "help" him.
Make living in your home conditional. No drinking, attend AA meetings. I think he might see from some of story meetings that he belongs in that group.
Also set some kind of schedule or him to get back on his feet and out of your home.
If he doesn't go for the conditions or you no longer want to help him, go with the other plans.
I'm kicking myself for allowing him into the house. When we brought him in we said no drinking to the excess of being drunk and as far as programs to help him on his feat; I/we have to take him. My wife and I have come to the decision that when he goes to his friends for the weekend, we will not pick him back up. To hell with his part-time gas station job.
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Old 11-04-2010, 01:11 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Can you drop him off at some county hospital or a rehab facility? Seems like he's not going to change whether or not he lives with you. He's burned every bridge so far, so the last good act you could do would be to stick him in a place where he has a chance to dry out before he ends up on the streets (though chances are high he'll end up there no matter what).

I'm sorry your wife has this sack of crap for a dad.
We mention Salvation Army to him all the time and the programs they offer, but he refuses to go through their requirements ie AA meetings and job trainings.

I don't know if he hopes to say here forever?!
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In my family it's my brother in-law. He has his own home, but fights with his crack head girlfriend and used to spend the night until I put a stop to it. He will steal booze, prescription drugs and any other psychoactive substance from my house he can find. He and his ex wife lost their two kids and the grandparents are raising them. He still managed to get his daughter to buy him crack that he smoked with her. This year he got drunk and blacked out and got all belligerent at his younger brothers wedding. I had to drag him out of there and babysit him so he did not fuck everything up. I realize that addiction is a disease, but its hard to feel sorry for these asshats. I have some idea what you are going through. Whatever you do don't beat on this idiot, because your wife will blame you and you could end up in jail. You are kind of in a no win situation.
EEK.

There were plenty of times I wanted to knock him the fuck out, but being drunk he'll miss the point.
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Can you commit people to rehab facilities?
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