Sarah Palin

[dEadERest]

Originally Posted by rodimusprime

You can't refute the truth so you're just calling names. I'm above this ... later.

. . not sure i believe that

Originally Posted by motownguy

I just agree with her on more topics than I agree with Obama / Biden.

uh oh . . this may not go well

Originally Posted by motownguy

generally letting the free market operate with less gov't intrusion

um . . seriously? . . rhetoric maybe?

more and bigger gov't from either, just different spheres of influence

[dEadERest]

and . .

Rove/Wolfowitz is to Bush

as Mika Brzezinski's pops is to Obama

. . hold on tight

[motownguy]

Originally Posted by MrBurger

Promoting intelligent design as an equally valid theory is just insane and crazy and ignorant.

How can you trust her to make any decision?

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Because she can believe that shit all day long, I disagree, so what? The Federal Gov't doesn't and should have any k -12 schools that it dictates curriculum for, so it may be a principle of hers, but it doesn't have anything to do with the Presidency as defined by the Constitution.

Originally Posted by TulsaCowboy

The most troubling thing about Obama is his utter lack of knowledge of economics. ... My hope is that Obama is lying about everything since even his own economist has said Obama doesn't really believe what he is saying. If he implements even half of the discredited policies he is pushing we are doomed to a major recession, but at least the government will be there to save us I guess.

^ This guy knows what he's talking about. Obama's ideas about tariffs and trade are actually stealth taxes on the lower class. I'm not going to stay up to write all out tonight, but the tariffs on athletic shoes are a classic example.

Originally Posted by Rhian

I read that he wants to bring back the Free Trade Agreement. That shit was horrible for Canada too.

^ There is a documentary out there called Commanding Heights, it is worth a watching ... and you can get it with your KATG Netflix account (plug).

[hypercrypt]

Letting the market operate completely freely is only good to a limited extent. Competition in areas such as the Postal Service, Utilities, Telephone and Internet and Mobile Telephony are very limited. It is hard to get into these markets and gives the big companies too much power. If they are able to buy any start-up and then exploit their customers, what would you do? If electricity cost $1 a unit, how would you live? How can you support a totally free market? Government regulation is needed to avoid price fixing (though it still goes on) and protect the consumer.

[motownguy]

Originally Posted by dEadERest

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more and bigger gov't from either, just different spheres of influence

But I'd rather try and defend my choice with a gun than my gun with a choice.

[Uncast]

Originally Posted by motownguy

But I'd rather try and defend my choice with a gun than my gun with a choice.

That makes for a snappy soundbite but I think you're gonna have to do both until neither party exists.

[rodimusprime]

Originally Posted by TulsaCowboy

The most troubling thing about Obama is his utter lack of knowledge of economics. He wants to raise the corporate tax rates. The US corp. tax rate is now at 35%, the second highest among all industrial countries! Raising this tax more is only going to force more companies off shore and push companies away from doing business here. Most of these taxes will be passed on to consumers as higher prices anyway.

It is also very important to hear Obama focus on tax CREDITs instead of tax CUTs. You can't cut the taxes of someone who doesn't pay taxes. You can only give them a credit, which is basically Carter style welfare (that Clinton put an end to) coming back from the grave.

His views on closing off our trade and ditching NAFTA (also signed by Clinton) are insane! His views are closer to Hugo Chavez than moderates like Clinton or McCain.

His plan to force companies to only sell flex fuel vehicles and further drive up corn prices makes me think he has slept through the last couple of years. Consumption isn't rising because of wastefulness. The U.S. produces more than twice as much GDP today per unit of energy as it did in the 1950s, yet energy use has risen threefold. That's because energy use is tethered to growth and the economy continues to innovate and expand. Mr. Obama seems to have other ideas.

My hope is that Obama is lying about everything since even his own economist has said Obama doesn't really believe what he is saying. If he implements even half of the discredited policies he is pushing we are doomed to a major recession, but at least the government will be there to save us I guess.

i doubt he could even accomplish the things you're saying he will do. Everyone campaigns on grand ideas that they know they have no chance in hell of actually accomplishing.

[motownguy]

Originally Posted by Uncast

That makes for a snappy soundbite but I think you're gonna have to do both until neither party exists.

I know, it's kind of like juggling on a seesaw, isn't it. I'll take credit for the snappy soundbite, however.

[pala]

Originally Posted by motownguy

Fiscal policy, lower taxes, energy policy, 2nd amendment issues and generally letting the free market operate with less gov't intrusion. I also like the fact that her whole career hasn't been tied to law and government, that she has lived and worked outside of that sphere.

The free market cannot and will not operate without government intrusion. In an ideal world it would, but BOTH parties want to tamper with it in their own way. The only government intrusion I support is a type of checks and balance to avoid monopoly's. As long as you have the Federal Reserve monkeying with the interest rates like their some kind of god-like figure you will never have the governments hands out of the market.

On a side note, FUCK the Federal Reserve and bring back the gold standard.

[dEadERest]

Originally Posted by pala

As long as you have the Federal Reserve monkeying with the interest rates like their some kind of god-like figure~

owners. of you, your property and your children and their future.

Originally Posted by pala

On a side note, FUCK the Federal Reserve and bring back the gold standard.

hmmm . . . I wonder who's been talking about that pretty much since 1971?
I would say FUCK the ignorant-by-choice people who've allowed this to happen.
Oh yeah, their gov't's already doing that . . delegation of responsibility!

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