Sarah Palin

[golgi body]

Just heard this yesterday on Howard Stern.



It's nice that so many people are informed on both sides.

[juliofromny]

wow.. Palin really pissed off this op-ed columnist. He wants to get rid of the vp position altogether LOL.

Originally Posted by LA Times

Abolish the vice presidency
The founders messed up. We should do away with the office.
By Bruce Ackerman

October 2, 2008

Sarah Palin is the product of a design flaw -- the unintended consequence of the founders' decision to create the vice presidency.

For two centuries, presidential nominees have used the office to balance the ticket by naming a running mate from a different region, or one who speaks with a different ideological accent to a specific constituency. This means that a president's death generates a double shock: The nation not only mourns a fallen leader, it must deal with a replacement who may push politics in a new direction.

Teddy Roosevelt -- who replaced William McKinley when he was assassinated in 1901 -- may have been a great progressive president, but he had been named as vice president by the arch-conservative McKinley simply to carry New York. The country elected a right-winger but ended up with something else entirely.

Similar perverse logic led Abraham Lincoln to choose Andrew Johnson as a running mate. Lincoln knew that Johnson was a racial conservative, but he was more interested in carrying Tennessee. This tragic blunder clouds Lincoln's claim to greatness. When Lincoln was killed, Johnson's bitter opposition to Reconstruction helped poison race relations for generations.

Recent elections have lulled us into a false sense of security. Both Bill Clinton and George W. Bush nominated like-minded, known-quantity running mates, as has Barack Obama this time around. But John McCain's surprising choice should lead us to think again. Mexico and France see no need for a vice president. We should designate the secretary of State to be in charge until a special election can be held to replace a president.

This isn't a question on which the founders deserve any deference. They designed their system for a very different political world.

Their electoral college aimed to give the power to choose the president to wealthy, important men in each state. But politics was emphatically local in the 18th century, and the founders feared that each state's electors would cast their ballots for a favorite son -- depriving the leading candidate of a majority.

To solve this problem, they hit upon an ingenious scheme. The original Constitution gave presidential electors two votes, not one, and provided that they could only vote for one nominee from their own state. The idea was that electors would use one vote to flatter a local favorite and the other to select a national leader like, say, George Washington, giving him a strong majority.

But alas, the two-vote system could be sabotaged. Electors could simply vote for their favorite Joe Schmoe and cast a blank second ballot, thereby maximizing Schmoe's chance for success. Enter the vice presidency, a consolation prize for favorite sons (or whoever polled second in the electoral college). It was meant to assure the election of a proper president; providing a replacement executive was a distinctly secondary objective.

This clever scheme did not survive the rise of political parties. By 1800, electors followed the instructions of the national Democratic-Republican and Federalist parties, generating a crisis. The Democratic-Republicans won the election, and their 73 electors all wrote the names of Thomas Jefferson and his running mate, Aaron Burr, on their ballots, without having the power to say that they wanted Jefferson to be president. This created a tie for the top spot, and Jefferson and Burr were obliged to compete for the presidency in what turned out to be a bitterly contested runoff in the House of Representatives.

After the smoke cleared, Congress and the states merely tinkered with the election system. Their 12th Amendment simply told electors to cast one ballot for president and one for vice president. This made a repeat of the Jefferson-Burr crisis impossible, but it paved the way for the vice presidential shocks that have redirected our national history.

If McCain wins the presidency, we can only wish him a long life. But however the race turns out, we should recognize that the founders didn't have the slightest idea that the vice presidency would episodically explode in our face, and it's about time we fixed it.



Bruce Ackerman is a professor of law and political science at Yale and the author of "The Failure of the Founding Fathers.

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Originally Posted by juliofromny

wow.. Palin really pissed off this op-ed columnist. He wants to get rid of the vp position altogether LOL.

Not a bad idea...

[Forbin]

I just came across footage of Sarah Palin's protege in action

[juliofromny]

well that debate was a bit disappointing... No car-crash whatsoever. And based on what she said, no more interviews either.

[Melvin]

I know however she did look a bit robotic trotting out scripted lines over and over again.

Biden came across well, he was in a hard position you can see he was warned off going after her and went for McCain instead.

And all that gee folks six pack hockey mom chat was horrendous.

However I laughed when she winked at the camera. Classy move. She surely cannot end up being leader of the most powerful nation in history. It would be a disaster, and not just for the polar bears.....

[Jon]

What are you talking about? Biden was totally scripted. She did great and took some good jabs at him.

[Melvin]

She trotted out the same stuff over and over agian. Ignored questions and talked about small town life. She held her nerve, no question there. But when asked on any details, ignored them and started banging on about the hockey pitch and small town life.

She did not provide one detailed response to anything. All her talk about change but not a singe detail.

[Melvin]

But do you know something, I actually think there is a pretty good chance she and McCain are going to win this thing. Despite the horrendous media coverage. She is just Bush with boobs.