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Old 10-15-2008, 07:01 PM   #771 (permalink)
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John Cleese on Sarah Palin

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Old 10-15-2008, 07:27 PM   #772 (permalink)
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Old 10-15-2008, 11:00 PM   #773 (permalink)
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'a breast of fresh air' Ha!


For the record, my father's a plumber and he thinks McCain is a douche nozzle (I'm paraphrasing).
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Old 10-15-2008, 11:43 PM   #774 (permalink)
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We run a small business and we provide health care benefits for our employees. We are sick of competing with Joe the Plumber types that do not. If McCain passes his $5000 tax credit plan, it will give a green light to every blue-collar/pink-collar business like us in America drop their employees and convert the savings into profit. No one will be able to afford health care for a $5000 tax credit, and the emergency rooms from coast to coast will be packed. Then, systematically, hospitals will subcontract their billing to third parties who will in turn convert health care debt into consumer debt at 21% interest. These third party companies will win court settlements, garnish wages, and get rich. And the middle class will be screwed. Think the economy isn't going anywhere now, think about when we've got garnishments on about a hundred million paychecks. As a business person, I'd like to see uniform, mandated health care. That way, companies like ours would not be penalized for doing the right thing. It's almost impossible to compete against Joe, screw my employees, the Plumber. Make health insurance mandatory (like car insurance), make it a commodity (1 plan, uniform and interchangeable), and let the free market scrap out buying and selling it. If rich people want additional coverage, let them buy supplemental insurance, or they can always pay cash. McCain's plan is a scam. Any time Republicans see large quantities of money changing hands, they just have to find a way to insert themselves in the middle to take a cut. This is nothing more than a way to convert the huge pile of cash that circulates through the health care system and squeeze additional profits out of it. I say cut out the middle man, buy wholesale.
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Old 10-16-2008, 05:47 AM   #776 (permalink)
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We run a small business and we provide health care benefits for our employees. We are sick of competing with Joe the Plumber types that do not. If McCain passes his $5000 tax credit plan, it will give a green light to every blue-collar/pink-collar business like us in America drop their employees and convert the savings into profit. No one will be able to afford health care for a $5000 tax credit, and the emergency rooms from coast to coast will be packed. Then, systematically, hospitals will subcontract their billing to third parties who will in turn convert health care debt into consumer debt at 21% interest. These third party companies will win court settlements, garnish wages, and get rich. And the middle class will be screwed. Think the economy isn't going anywhere now, think about when we've got garnishments on about a hundred million paychecks. As a business person, I'd like to see uniform, mandated health care. That way, companies like ours would not be penalized for doing the right thing. It's almost impossible to compete against Joe, screw my employees, the Plumber. Make health insurance mandatory (like car insurance), make it a commodity (1 plan, uniform and interchangeable), and let the free market scrap out buying and selling it. If rich people want additional coverage, let them buy supplemental insurance, or they can always pay cash. McCain's plan is a scam. Any time Republicans see large quantities of money changing hands, they just have to find a way to insert themselves in the middle to take a cut. This is nothing more than a way to convert the huge pile of cash that circulates through the health care system and squeeze additional profits out of it. I say cut out the middle man, buy wholesale.
I've bought my own health insurance for a family of four for less than $5000.00 per year. It was a 70/30 PPO plan with a hospitilization rider (extra coverage if you have to stay in the hospital for more than 24 hours) and an HSA. Opening up state to state portability is likely to reduce those costs by increasing competition. Now, I don't like the money being sent directly to the insurance company (as it is in McCain's plan), because it adds a level of kludge to the process.
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Old 10-17-2008, 07:24 PM   #780 (permalink)
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I've bought my own health insurance for a family of four for less than $5000.00 per year. It was a 70/30 PPO plan with a hospitilization rider (extra coverage if you have to stay in the hospital for more than 24 hours) and an HSA. Opening up state to state portability is likely to reduce those costs by increasing competition. Now, I don't like the money being sent directly to the insurance company (as it is in McCain's plan), because it adds a level of kludge to the process.
We have one employee that runs $750/month. That's $9000/year. Good luck when you get a little bit older or actually have some claims.
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