Serena Williams

[campy]

no...I think she mouthed off...so what.

I come from hockey country where the players are only thrown off the ice after they've nearly killed someone (i'd post a link to the Chara check but it was too brutal).

I don't get why it is such a big deal...sorry.

Maybe in this sport it is unacceptable behaviour but in other sports it is just part of the game.

in my opinion.

And no, in polite society it isn't "ok" but in this situation I don't see the big deal.

[Dean from Australia]

She actually committed a violation (intentional disruption) with that dip shit scream of hers during a volley in a conscious attempt to distract Stosur.

The bitch knew what she was doing so she shouldn't have cried foul.

Fuck her.

[campy]

well I brought this up in the lunch room and had my head bitten off

"She insulted the REF for God sake...what did she EXPECT"

Anyway, I agree that she needed a reprimand, she broke the rules, she was rude....I just don't think she was a "cunt" because of it...really...seems like overkill to me.

but yeah, FUCK that CUNT for talking back and getting mad...HOW DARE SHE...bitch...Grumble grumble...

[dEadERest]

Originally Posted by campy

Maybe in this sport it is unacceptable behaviour but in other sports it is just part of the game.

" ... miss it . . Noonan!"

Originally Posted by Dean from Australia

She actually committed a violation (intentional disruption) with that dip shit scream of hers during a volley in a conscious attempt to distract Stosur.

not shitting on you per se but, I don't think she was trying to distract. I think she was mad at herself and had a self-centered, inappropriate/unfair by the rules, outburst.

Originally Posted by campy

...HOW DARE SHE...bitch...robble robble...

i fix for you

[Dean from Australia]

Originally Posted by dEadERest

" ... miss it . . Noonan!"

not shitting on you per se but, I don't think she was trying to distract. I think she was mad at herself and had a self-centered, inappropriate/unfair by the rules, outburst.

i fix for you

Fair call. People will see it differently for sure. But she does has form on that.

[Blitzgal]

Originally Posted by fluxquanta

Whenever I say I don't like Serena (online, anyway -- people IRL don't give a shit about tennis) people always call racism, which is pretty fucking stupid. Why can't a cunt just be a cunt, regardless of skin color?

Please note I'm not saying that you personally hold these feelings due to racism -- I don't know you so I don't know where they come from in your head. But the cultural stereotype of the "angry black person" is very real. Whereas Agassi and McEnroe were known as "bad boys," Williams gets treated very differently by the public for exhibiting the exact same behavior that they did. Is it because she's a woman? Is it because she's black?

This is not to say that she behaved in a professional manner. She did not. I'm only questioning why the public sees her as this demon woman but McEnroe and Agassi got the "boys will be boys" attitude instead.

I'm specifically talking about the public's reaction here. McEnroe was consistently fined for his behavior just as Williams has been. He never got anywhere near a $90K fine even though he also fought with umpires and even smashed a juice cart with his racquet but it looks like there were caps on the amount you could be fined back then.

[campy]

Originally Posted by Blitzgal

Please note I'm not saying that you personally hold these feelings due to racism -- I don't know you so I don't know where they come from in your head. But the cultural stereotype of the "angry black person" is very real. Whereas Agassi and McEnroe were known as "bad boys," Williams gets treated very differently by the public for exhibiting the exact same behavior that they did. Is it because she's a woman? Is it because she's black?

This is not to say that she behaved in a professional manner. She did not. I'm only questioning why the public sees her as this demon woman but McEnroe and Agassi got the "boys will be boys" attitude instead.

I'm specifically talking about the public's reaction here. McEnroe was consistently fined for his behavior just as Williams has been. He never got anywhere near a $90K fine even though he also fought with umpires and even smashed a juice cart with his racquet but it looks like there were caps on the amount you could be fined back then.

Thank you for summing up concisely exactly what I was thinking and feeling.

[dEadERest]

. . girls

[Dean from Australia]

Originally Posted by Blitzgal

Please note I'm not saying that you personally hold these feelings due to racism -- I don't know you so I don't know where they come from in your head. But the cultural stereotype of the "angry black person" is very real. Whereas Agassi and McEnroe were known as "bad boys," Williams gets treated very differently by the public for exhibiting the exact same behavior that they did. Is it because she's a woman? Is it because she's black?

This is not to say that she behaved in a professional manner. She did not. I'm only questioning why the public sees her as this demon woman but McEnroe and Agassi got the "boys will be boys" attitude instead.

I'm specifically talking about the public's reaction here. McEnroe was consistently fined for his behavior just as Williams has been. He never got anywhere near a $90K fine even though he also fought with umpires and even smashed a juice cart with his racquet but it looks like there were caps on the amount you could be fined back then.

I understand the disparity between the women and the men thing here, but not all of us subscribe to the view that it's bitches vs. bad boys.

Both Agassi and McEnroe are entitled fucks who are no better when it comes to code violations and the like.

Williams is a tennis player who broke the rules because she is another entitled fuck who can't stand being rolled by anybody. She was warned after verbally threatening violence against a linesman or woman in 09 that she was on her last chance. I'd say rub her out for a year and see how she and anyone else like her like it.

Should clean things up a bit.

[dEadERest]

Originally Posted by Dean from Australia

She was warned after verbally threatening violence against a linesman or woman in 09 that she was on her last chance.

not fer nuthin but that was pretty effed up if i remembers . .