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Old 11-20-2008, 05:15 AM   #11 (permalink)
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John Walker Lindh? Really? What motivation would he have to help THAT guy?
hey yeah...hmmm. interesting...

small world moment: john walker lindh is my 6th grade teacher's first cousin. nuts right?

and bush is convicted of something: leaving a mess behind for obama to clean up.
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Old 11-20-2008, 05:25 AM   #12 (permalink)
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and bush is convicted of something: leaving a mess behind for obama to clean up.
that's called being a politician.
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Old 11-20-2008, 05:35 AM   #13 (permalink)
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that's called being a politician.
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Old 11-20-2008, 01:08 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Cheney-targeting DA is no-show
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Old 01-09-2009, 05:26 AM   #15 (permalink)
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He should pardon the 2 Border patrol agents convicted of shooting a mexican drug dealer in the back.(They only got convicted because they tried to cover it up.)
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From Wiki

(President) Clinton issued 140 pardons as well as several commutations on his last day of office, January 20, 2001.[14] When a sentence is commuted, the conviction remains intact, but the sentence can be altered in a number of ways. Some controversial actions include the following:

Peter MacDonald - The day before President Clinton left office, U.S. Rep. Patrick J. Kennedy lobbied the White House to commute the sentence of the former leader of the Navajo Nation. MacDonald was sentenced to 14 years at a Federal Prison in Texas for fraud, extortion, inciting riots, bribery, and corruption stemming from the Navajo purchase of the Big Boquillas Ranch in Northwestern Arizona. His sentence was commuted after he served 10 years.

Carlos A. Vignali had his sentence for cocaine trafficking commuted, after serving 6 of 15 years in federal prison.

Almon Glenn Braswell was pardoned of his mail fraud and perjury convictions, even while a federal investigation was underway regarding additional money laundering and tax evasion charges.[15] Braswell and Carlos Vignali each paid approximately $200,000 to Hillary Clinton's brother, Hugh Rodham, to represent their respective cases for clemency. Hugh Rodham returned the payments after they were disclosed to the public.[16] Braswell would later invoke the Fifth Amendment at a Senate Committee hearing in 2001, when questioned about allegations of his having systematically defrauded senior citizens of millions of dollars.[17]

Linda Sue Evans and Susan Rosenberg were pardoned. Weather Underground members, they were imprisoned on weapons and explosives charges.[18][19]

Marc Rich, a fugitive who had fled the U.S. during his prosecution and was residing in Switzerland. Rich owed $48 million in taxes and was charged with 51 counts of tax fraud, was pardoned of tax evasion after clemency pleas from Israeli prime minister Ehud Barak, among many other international luminaries. He was required to pay a $100 million dollar fine and waive any use of the pardon as a defense against any future civil charges that were filed against him in the same case. Critics complained that Denise Rich, his former wife, had made substantial donations to the Clinton library and to Mrs. Clinton's senate campaign. Emails uncovered during the course of the investigation revealed that her final donation was provided a year before Scooter Libby requested that she approach Clinton for a pardon. According to Paul Volcker's independent investigation of Iraqi Oil-for-Food kickback schemes, Marc Rich was a middleman for several suspect Iraqi oil deals involving over 4 million barrels of oil.[20]

Susan McDougal, who had already completed her sentence, was pardoned for her role in the Whitewater scandal; McDougal had served 18 months on contempt charges for refusing to testify about Clinton's role.

Dan Rostenkowski, a former Democratic Congressman convicted in the Congressional Post Office Scandal. Rostenkowski had served his entire sentence.

Melvin J. Reynolds, a Democratic Congressman from Illinois, who was convicted of bank fraud, 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice, and solicitation of child pornography had his sentence commuted on the bank fraud charge and was allowed to serve the final months under the auspices of a half way house. He had served his entire sentence on child sex abuse charges before the commutation of the later convictions.

Roger Clinton, the president's half-brother, on drug charges after having served the entire sentence more than a decade before. Roger Clinton would be charged with drunk driving and disorderly conduct in an unrelated incident within a year of the pardon.[21] He was also briefly alleged to have been utilized in lobbying for the Braswell pardon, among others. However, no wrongdoing was uncovered.
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Old 01-12-2009, 05:06 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Presidential Pardons

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* Richard Nixon - full and unconditional pardon for any crimes he may have committed against the United States while President
* Robert E. Lee - full rights of citizenship were posthumously restored
* Iva Toguri D'Aquino - "Tokyo Rose" - only U.S. citizen convicted of treason to be pardoned
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Al Jazeera English - Americas - No final pardons from Bush

[President Bush must have forgotten to do his bit. I'm surprised. End of thread????]

George Bush has, on his final full day as US president, commuted the sentences of two border patrol agents but steered clear of a high-profile pardon for former vice-presidential aide Lewis "Scooter" Libby.

Bush commuted the 11-year prison sentence of Ignacio Ramos and the 12-year sentence of Jose Alonso Compean, who had been convicted of assault and violating the civil rights of Osvaldo Aldrete Davila, a Mexican drug dealer.

Davila pressed charges against them after he was shot while attempting to smuggle 300kg of marijuana into Texas in 2005.

Davila, who said he was unarmed, was shot in the buttocks as he tried to flee back across the border to Mexico.

The two agents did not report the shooting to their superiors and tried to cover up the incident but their convictions drew sharp criticism from advocates of tough US border security policies who said they were just doing their jobs.

Early release

The agents will still face three years of supervised release and a $2,000 fine, but will not be released on March 20.

A White House official who asked not to be named said this was expected to be Bush's last act of clemency before his presidency ends at noon (17:00 GMT) on Tuesday when Barack Obama takes office.

The two commutations were in marked contrast to predecessor Bill Clinton, who issued a flurry of 140 pardons on his last day as president.

Controversy still reverberates over Clinton's last-minute pardon of fugitive financier Marc Rich, whose ex-wife was a major Democratic donor.

Obama's choice for attorney-general, Eric Holder, faced questions about the Rich pardon during confirmation hearings and said he erred in supporting the 2001 pardon when he was Clinton's deputy attorney-general.

Clinton issued 396 pardons and commuted 51 sentences in his two terms as president while Bush's father, who preceded Clinton, issued 74 pardons and commuted three sentences in his four years in office.

Bush issued 189 pardons and 11 commutations of sentences during his eight years in office.

No final pardons

Missing from the pardons list was Libby, the former chief of staff of Dick Cheney, Bush's vice-president.

Bush had commuted Libby's 30-month sentence in 2007, but did not pardon him for lying to a grand jury investigating the leaked identification of CIA operative Valerie Plame.

Also omitted from the list was Ted Stevens, the former Alaska senator, who is fighting his October 27 conviction for failing to report significant gifts on his financial disclosure forms.

Stevens, a Republican, lost his re-election race in November, and has accused federal investigators of misconduct in his case
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Old 01-20-2009, 08:49 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Perhaps he was just too dim to figure it out.
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