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Old 02-03-2015, 08:10 PM   #64 (permalink)
DaveNJ
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Originally Posted by Sparrow View Post
doesn't change my feelings about state intrusion on grown up sex.
To be clear, what is your definition of "grown up sex"? This is the sticking point. If you believe that consent is merely getting a "yes" from someone, no matter the power dynamic, then you really need to recognize that you hold a fundamentally different definition of grown up sex than the rest of the society you live in. You can keep beating that drum, but you're in the corner with guys who think that girls who are passed-out drunk can give consent.

Your views here never, ever account for power dynamics as they pertain to sexual conduct, and that's one of the linchpins of our social and legal understanding of consent. You're sitting here with two lines and calling it a triangle, but without that third line, people are going to look at you funny, and for good reason.
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