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Keith. This doesnít make him a thoughtless guy. 51 34.93%
Cat. Itís her birthday for Godís sake. 95 65.07%
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Old 11-29-2011, 03:00 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Pepper spray is included on the Scoville scale. The highest grade is four times hotter on the scale than a habanero pepper, and almost twice as hot as the ghost chili pepper.

Scoville scale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I want to see one of these idiot talking heads on Fox offer themselves up to be pepper sprayed to show everyone just how tame of a food item it is. A few of them have been dumb enough to get tased, and one blowhard radio host even submitted himself to waterboarding:

Mancow Waterboarded, Admits It's Torture | NBC Chicago

*As a sidenote, I love that the word "blastemy," has officially replaced the word "blasphemy" on this show. Makes me lol every time.
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Old 11-29-2011, 03:06 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I thought the debate between Keith and Chemda was really good. Especially from Chemda, who brought up things that people don't always think about in depth when it comes to these situations. I'm usually a fan of the "don't make it a huge deal" thought process, but I've come to learn that birthdays are a big deal to a lot of people. And I act accordingly. You don't break up with someone over it if something like that goes wrong once (that's ridiculous), but it's entirely reasonable to have a discussion to be better informed for the future. It's more about what exactly the other person wants than what you would want.

And yeah, people always get shafted if their birthdays around the holidays. My parents are born on Christmas Eve and right before New Year's, and they both get combined presents and parties all the time. It's easier for people to hit multiple birds with one stone. They didn't celebrate Christmas much when they were younger though. It's more of a big deal over here in North America.
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Old 11-29-2011, 04:12 PM   #13 (permalink)
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My birthday is on the 27th of November, and it was always decent. My parents always made sure to make me feel special and separate.

My daughters have birthdays at the end of January, and it wasn't until them that I realized how fucking hard this is, financially. The birthday party alone runs a few hundred dollars. Then more for goodie bags, food, cake, etc.

This will lessen as they get older, but now.. It becomes a choice of what to do, party or lots of presents. But I've also got twins, so everything is double at the same damn time. Thankfully I can combine games, systems, movies... But other stuff? Although they may suffer in comparison to some kids, they at least stay consistent with each other.

As for me, my birthday is pretty much negligible. We replaced our TV and spent a few hundred extra, so that became my present. That's generally how it goes.

As for the present for Cat, fuck dude, go spend $50 and get her a nice piece of jewelry. I got some nice stuff for my wife at wal-Mart, of all places, and it's actually very nice, and cost all of $60. It doesn't cost much to simply get her something to show you care. If she isn't okay with an honest and daring gesture, then that's on her.

Simply put though, we buy too much shit for people. Christmas and birthday presents go above and beyond. I'm spoiled and entitled now, and I wish I hadn't gotten everything I wanted. It's sickening. I know that I give my kids too much, but I don't give them near as much as some people do. No $500 iPads. No 40 Presents. Their main presents for Christmas are 2 stupid fijits and the skylanders game. The other stuff, games and shit, nothing stupid in comparison.

In the coming years, I plan on reducing it further. I refuse to have them turn out like I did.

In summary, go buy her something. She deserves it, putting up with your shit
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Old 11-29-2011, 04:18 PM   #14 (permalink)
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i feel more for cat's side but i loved the sweetness in keith's voice while he was explaining.

so much true love in it.
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Old 11-29-2011, 04:22 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by andsoitgoes View Post
In the coming years, I plan on reducing it further. I refuse to have them turn out like I did.
I agree about the commercialism, but I must's much easier and less stressful if you (I mean everyone) just go with the flow and don't get too worked up about presents. Have agreements with people about how much you'll all spend on each other. Obviously this is easier said than done and completely depends on your relationship to the people you're buying presents for, but it alleviates the stress most of the time. And it helps a TON if you start instilling this to kids when they're young. It's not necessarily too late, but once they get used to large gifts, they'll start to expect it.
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Old 11-29-2011, 06:30 PM   #16 (permalink)
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A birthday has no actual physical significance when compared to, say, a span of time. I guess people just think it's their "special day" and feel entitled.
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Old 11-29-2011, 08:37 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Why does Handa gasp so much when keith says a simple thing.

Keith: Oh, da wever itz niiiice.
Handa: Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhh
Keith: Yeas, shits awesome.

And can you guys bring Jonef Odonnel back? He's funny and crazy but I was surprised hes so old. I tought he was about 20 yrs old. Maybe he should just tell peole that.
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:09 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I'm totally on Keith's side. It's not like he forgot about her birthday. It's not like he blew her off. I have no sympathy for the kind of people Chemda was explaining. Maybe it's just my personality, but whatever.

I am also kind of amused because the gift probably wouldn't have gotten to Cat, what with the address mistake, and then what would have happened with that? What if Keith had sent a gift but then it got lost in the mail? Would it be such a big deal also? So that might be interesting.
That just happened. Seriously.
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:24 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I don't give a fuck about my birthday. But I was listening to this on the commute home and had time to think about this. It would be cool if my sig other would throw a surprise birthday party for me once a year on a random important person's birthday. Like I come home, and it's a surprise party for Simeon D Poisson's birthday, that would be really awesome.

(Obviously not a deal breaker for me, but probably a deal breaker for anybody who reads this.)
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Old 11-30-2011, 07:58 AM   #20 (permalink)
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I might start saying my birthday is a day in summer rather than my actual birthday.

Mine is in February. I hate fucking winter and shitty stuff always happens on or really close to my birthday.
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