1923: The Art of Charm

[Bucho]

Interesting article about false memories from a proper newspaper - False memories of sexual abuse lead to terrible miscarriages of justice | Chris French | Science | theguardian.com

'In fact, many hundreds of people have been wrongfully convicted in the UK because juries and those involved in the legal system relied upon "common sense" in considering issues relating to memory.'

Originally Posted by Keith

We're working on a monthly show with Pat called In Defense Of. We haven't decided if in the beginning we start with things like Hitler and pedophilic priests or if we begin light with folks such as OJ and Lance Armstrong.

The West Memphis Three? Brenda and Scott Kniffen? The Kern County case?

Originally Posted by beckydewbabe

I'm confused why he even came on the show if he only wanted to talk about what he thought were facts and dismiss any information he didn't decide were facts for himself.

You mean like the "information" that Soon Yi was "at most 15" when the explicit photographs were taken?

[theycallmepyro]

Hey guys! What's going on in here?

[ImStillToni]

Originally Posted by Enunciated Piffle

I love how women equate a man's worth with how long he can be loyal to a woman!

Woody's personal life and his written both make it clear that a man can be in a long relationship and/ or marriage and yet still trade it all in for teenage pussy. Christ! How many people on this forum have actually seen Blue Jasmine? It's a key component to this whole ordeal...

Anyway.

You could be right. Woody might have gotten all his side pussy days behind him. Maybe he's married since 1997 and stayed content.

I want you to think about this though. It's gross, but bear with me. Let's say that Woody Allen is in fact a child molester. We all know that shit is incurable and doesn't just end. Men convicted of that crime are repeat offenders.

What if the only thing keeping Woody 'faithful in marriage' is that he's abusing those two Asian adopted girls? Soon Yi strikes me as a woman who is in a very submissive role. She has been groomed since a young girl to accept Woody's perverted sexual desires. There have been plenty cases of husband/ wife child abuse cases. It is possible.

I'm sure Pat is now going to dissect this with numerous horseshit Washington Post articles on why I'm wrong. I'm more interested in a human/ personal response.

Also, above all else, everyone should see Blue Jasmine. It's incredible. It's got Dice, Louis CK, and Cate Blanchett in the greatest portrayal of a complacent/submissive rich wife's descent into madness - ever. It's award winning. Maybe some of you bitching on these forums might have missed that part.

I will admit after reading the custody findings (yup, I research shit beforehand lol) I too thought about the two little girls. I also know from research pedophilia very rarely is it just an isolated incident and typically manifests to repeat behavior. I do not see Soon-Yi as some helpless little victim (just as Pat) unlike so many who do. When I was 18 and I messing around with 30+ year olds. I looked older than I am now. I pursued em, I wanted em, and I fucked them because I was more maturie than guys my own age and was bored. (I completely agree with Pat 100% regarding Keith/Chemda's rebuttals to this point, an 18+ woman KNOWS what's she's doing with her vajayjay, don't get it twisted). Soon-Yi got her man. Soon-Yi is an extremely intelligent polyglot. And I pray a mother that loves her children that she would do what Mia Farrow did not and investigate and/or prosecute Allen within an inch of his life if she ever suspected abuse or one of those girl's mentioned molestation. If he's charged and found guilty, then he's guilty but until then the burden of proof is not on Allen, it now technically on Dylan since she wanted to bring everything back up.

And to play devil's advocate: have you ever met someone who was convicted of a crime they did not commit, was accused of impregnating a woman when its another dude's baby, or someone who was falsely accused of rape or molestation? The false allegation, witch hunt, innuendos, and continued mentions of the supposed crime never go away. Families are torn apart. People commit suicide. It's horrible. And this is why I feel it is irresponsible to go around posting a bunch of shit about Woody Allen - I wasn't there, he was never charged, he has never confessed, and he was never found guilty.

Time for Mia and Dylan to prove this shit or shut the fuck up about it. Or maybe Allen will slap their asses with a libel & defamation suit, because these two heffas never use "allegedly."

I will see Blue Jasmine the day MJ comes back from the grave. I do not know one Black person who even likes Woody Allen or his boring ass films. I don't even like Woody Allen lmao I just like factual debate

[Keith]

Originally Posted by ImStillToni

And to play devil's advocate: have you ever met someone who was convicted of a crime they did not commit, was accused of impregnating a woman when its another dude's baby, or someone who was falsely accused of rape or molestation?

First of all, no one has to play devil's advocate. What do you FEEL?

And next: No, weirdo. I haven't.

[Enunciated Piffle]

Originally Posted by ImStillToni

Time for Mia and Dylan to prove this shit or shut the fuck up about it. Or maybe Allen will slap their asses with a libel & defamation suit, because these two heffas never use "allegedly."

You make a good point with the 'allegedly.' It's hard to argue that Woody Allen is NOT going after them because he just wants it to go away, (due to guilt) OR if he's like, "God, I just want this to go away, I'm innocent and this is the worst."

You also brought up that Ronan might be Sinatra's kid. Look at the pics. He looks EXACTLY like him! Now does this prove Woody is a 'nice' guy? Or does it prove HE'S SO FUCKING GUILTY that he's knowingly paying child support for someone else's kid, in hopes it goes away? Hell, maybe he's just rich and doesn't give a fuck.

Black folks don't watch Woody Allen films?? Mind blown

[theycallmepyro]

Crimes and Misdemeanors is Woody's best work.

Just sayin'...

[Enunciated Piffle]

Originally Posted by Keith

First of all, no one has to play devil's advocate. What do you FEEL?

I would like to see Woody Allen on MNiK.

It's the only trusted science left in this compromised world.

[ImStillToni]

Originally Posted by Keith

First of all, no one has to play devil's advocate. What do you FEEL?

And next: No, weirdo. I haven't.

1) Are you baiting my alleged batshit tendencies?
2) THIS is how I feel at this point

[ImStillToni]

Originally Posted by Enunciated Piffle

You make a good point with the 'allegedly.' It's hard to argue that Woody Allen is NOT going after them because he just wants it to go away, (due to guilt) OR if he's like, "God, I just want this to go away, I'm innocent and this is the worst."

You also brought up that Ronan might be Sinatra's kid. Look at the pics. He looks EXACTLY like him! Now does this prove Woody is a 'nice' guy? Or does it prove HE'S SO FUCKING GUILTY that he's knowingly paying child support for someone else's kid, in hopes it goes away? Hell, maybe he's just rich and doesn't give a fuck.

Black folks don't watch Woody Allen films?? Mind blown

I will say I personally do believe that Ronan is Sinatra's son. To me it proves that

a) either Woody has always known because Mia told him and its a secret between the two of them. So if Woody knowingly accepted and paid support for a baby he knows was not his, again, says a lot about his character. No every man will knowingly accept another man's child has is. This is exactly what MrToni's "dad" did, he's raised MrToni since age 5. MrToni considers his biodad dead and his "stepfather" is the main that raised him. He would take a bullet for the man that raised him, not his bio dad.
B) Allen's rich enough he can knowingly pay support for Ronan no matter what versus contesting paternity and screwing up this (then kid's) head

I DESPISE Woody Allen films. Until I lived in NYC, I didn't realize how many rich white folks i see every fucking day....i don't need to watch a woody allen film to see the same shit, plus he irks the shit out of me. so I will say my fave Allen film is The Purple Rose of Cairo (1985)..I haven't watched one of his films since the 90s because I personally do not care for him. goes to show you can defend someone without even liking their ass

I just said I do not know any Black folk who like or watch Allen films. I'm sure there are a few here and there...but you can only watch so many movies written by a man who NEVER has a Black person in the cast. it's all WASPS with a sprinkle of Latino (Cruz, Javier, etc) here and there. Like there are NO nukkas in ALL of Managattan or LI or CT? lmao yea, ok

[Enunciated Piffle]

Originally Posted by ImStillToni

..versus contesting paternity and screwing up this (then kid's) head

Hold on a second.

Your saying that NOT letting Ronan know that his father is actually Frank Sinatra, one of the most beloved, greatest most handsomest singer, in ALL of music, is a good thing?

Ok.