1943: Spank You Very Much

[lizsquiz]

It’s incredible to me that you’re still allowed to spank children in schools in so many US states. It’s been illegal in government-run schools in Australia for over 20 years in some states, however in some states spanking is still allowed in private schools. Teachers here nowadays can’t so much as touch a child let alone use force to discipline them. Some guidelines even caution against teachers shouting or raising their voices.

My mother’s a teacher in a government-run school and she has been threatened with legal action by a parent when my mother forcibly separated their son from a child he was beating up. She’s not allowed to touch a child in any way, even in the defence of another child, and doing so risks getting sued. She recently had a child throw a chair at her and bite her on the back of her legs and she’s not allowed to do anything to defend herself in any way. It’s completely fucked up. These are middle-school kids who should be able to be disciplined and could easily be subdued by an adult if the adult had the right to do so.

[bw81]

Discipline my kid but don't you lay a finger on her in frustration or to "teach her a lesson". We discussed discipline with the principal and teachers before we agreed to her going to the school. If my daughter came home from school and said she was smacked or hit by a teacher I would pull her out of the school. My internal rage would want me to go there and smack the teacher but that is the type of reaction I don't want instilled in her; that if there is a problem, violence will fix it. We don't hit at home but if she were to be hit at school, she would quickly change her tune about how she reacts to discipline at home; "I can get away with murder at home because Mum and Dad won't hit me."

My kid goes to school to learn and to be excited to learn so that she doesn't end up hating school by the time she is 9 and gives up. Having someone whom she looks up to and listens to daily show her that when someone doesn't fall in line they get smacked is not what I want for my daughter. It's hard enough knowing that other dickhead kids in her playground will hit and swear when they don't get their way, but we re-enforce (WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE!) at home that we don't hit. Hopefully our influence is stronger than the other kids, at least till she's a little older.

Disappointment has worked for us, so far; if my kid has messed up and she sees how disappointed we are in what she has done, she is sorry and changes her way. Having the fear of upsetting us in her mind, not a backhand, should hopefully deter her from doing the wrong thing. We talk about what she could have done differently, we all learn from the experience, the audience says, "Awwww" and the credits roll.

Who knows how long that is going to last though.

[jaredv1214]

Spanking in school should not be allowed but parents should start spanking their kids again. My parents are old school and I got spanked, but there were plenty others my age who weren't and you could tell by their bad behavior. Spankings shouldn't be the go to, but it does seem to be an effective tool in keeping kids from becoming spoiled brats.

[bw81]

parents should start spanking their kids again.

Is it the lack of spanking that turns kids into spoiled brats, or shitty parenting?

Parents should start being more involved and genuinely give a shit about their kids. They pick up on when you give shit about them. If someone spanks their own kids, that's their business. But wouldn't it be better to not have to let hitting be the deterrent? I would hope that people who start spanking their kids have tried everything they can before they resort to it.

[Scumhook]

Originally Posted by bw81

Is it the lack of spanking that turns kids into spoiled brats, or shitty parenting?

Parents should start being more involved and genuinely give a shit about their kids. They pick up on when you give shit about them. If someone spanks their own kids, that's their business. But wouldn't it be better to not have to let hitting be the deterrent? I would hope that people who start spanking their kids have tried everything they can before they resort to it.

This ^^^^^^^^^^^

But seeing there's exactly 0% chance of that happening, let's allow the teachers to defend themselves.

[OnmyojiOmn]

You should never spank or otherwise hit a child, ever, for any reason. It's NEVER beneficial and it's NEVER the right thing to do. Keith, your weirdo emotionally abusive father hit you and you were shitting in walls for years. That's your success story? It took someone like Chemda to turn you into a human being.

Edit: the above is true for pets too, for what that's worth. Not even a tap on the head, not ever. "Pfft! It's not hard enough to even hurt him." Fuck you.

[Scumhook]

Originally Posted by OnmyojiOmn

You should never spank or otherwise hit a child, ever, for any reason. It's NEVER beneficial and it's NEVER the right thing to do. Keith, your weirdo emotionally abusive father hit you and you were shitting in walls for years. That's your success story? It took someone like Chemda to turn you into a human being.

Edit: the above is true for pets too, for what that's worth. Not even a tap on the head, not ever. "Pfft! It's not hard enough to even hurt him." Fuck you.

I can see from your username that you copped some pretty severe head trauma as a child.

[ssgtballard]

Originally Posted by OnmyojiOmn

You should never spank or otherwise hit a child, ever, for any reason. It's NEVER beneficial and it's NEVER the right thing to do. Keith, your weirdo emotionally abusive father hit you and you were shitting in walls for years. That's your success story? It took someone like Chemda to turn you into a human being.

Edit: the above is true for pets too, for what that's worth. Not even a tap on the head, not ever. "Pfft! It's not hard enough to even hurt him." Fuck you.

You are a fucking moron

[jaredv1214]

Originally Posted by bw81

I would hope that people who start spanking their kids have tried everything they can before they resort to it.

Like I said, it shouldn't be the go to but parents have stopped it altogether and you can definitely see the difference in attitude. Spanking your own kid isn't the end of the world and their kids won't be as bratty.

[Keith]

Brian's making the point that no teacher hits HIS kid.

And agreed. No teacher will hit MY kid either. You met the teachers as will I.

But we need a rule for people in general.

Meet any teachers that you trust more than parents you've met? Like MUCH more?