2161: She's Always a Woman

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Originally Posted by PsychoLoco

Marykae, over four days ago I asked ...

While I agree with you and don't agree with MaryKae, I'm inclined to read her "man's opinion" comment as defensiveness more than as her literal opinion.

She may have come across a few men in the past who think of women's sports and female athletes as a joke, but who use the topic as a trans maligning opportunity, by pretending to empathize with female athletes.

She's defensive so anyone genuinely empathizing with "born in female body" women feels to her like a disingenuous divide and conquer tactic.

In response to a couple earlier comments, women do not have anywhere near the pain tolerance of men, and wtf is up with whitey's bones? White people, find some calcium!

[PsychoLoco]

I've got nothing against Marykae. As I said in my first post, I would sincerely like an answer. Either she's getting bad advice and blaming it on gender or there really are situations where a man could not possibly comprehend what is going down.

I've really been thinking about it. If I had an STI, I wouldn't discount medical advice from a female urologist just because she's never had male genitalia. Likewise, I would never give advice to women on how to treat men based solely on how I personally prefer to be treated without qualifying my advice. If there is a discussion I should never, ever get involved in with a woman because it is beyond male comprehension, I'd like that list now rather than later.

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Originally Posted by PsychoLoco

If there is a discussion I should never, ever get involved in with a woman because it is beyond male comprehension, I'd like that list now rather than later.

I doubt she does think that. But when she takes a break from roughing up the trans women down at the roller rink, hopefully she'll come fill us in on if she does or not.

[Lanfear]

Originally Posted by PsychoLoco

I've got nothing against Marykae. As I said in my first post, I would sincerely like an answer. Either she's getting bad advice and blaming it on gender or there really are situations where a man could not possibly comprehend what is going down.

I've really been thinking about it. If I had an STI, I wouldn't discount medical advice from a female urologist just because she's never had male genitalia. Likewise, I would never give advice to women on how to treat men based solely on how I personally prefer to be treated without qualifying my advice. If there is a discussion I should never, ever get involved in with a woman because it is beyond male comprehension, I'd like that list now rather than later.

The key point here is "you" wouldn't disregard a females opinion, lots of other males will some proud and openly some just internally.

And its the same the other way around, I know that guys can raise a child just as well as a woman would (after taking out breastmilk & related biology) but I am sure there are lots of women running around shouting "OMG a child needs its mother"

[marykae]

I didn't acknowledge you because out if the gate you seemed to not comprehend that women and men have completely different experiences walking through life. In my experience, there is never any use having a discussion with people like that. It's a waste if time and frustrates me unnecessarily.

I'm not saying a man couldn't have good advice for a woman. I am saying that a man could not say how he would feel if he were a woman, because he has been treated completely differently walking through life.

[marykae]

I'm not being defensive. I'm just saying true things!

[Keith]

If you happen to be on your period now you have to say.

[CsisandDesist]

I have a close friend who has transitioned from male to female and is competitive at a fairly high level in her sport. The main issue is that each sport federation is going to have to decide what hormone levels constitutes what is fair and reasonable. So far for her everything seems ok in terms of fair competition and no one has raised concerns that I know of.

To the issue of bone density. That isn't reversible.

1. Unfortunately, the annihilation of sex characteristics of the original sex is incomplete. In male-to-female transsexuals, there is no mode of treatment to revert earlier effects of androgens on the skeleton. The greater height, the shape of the jaws, the size and shape of the hands and feet, and the narrow width of the pelvis can not be redressed once they have reached their final size at the end of puberty. Conversely, the relative lower height in female-to-male transsexuals (in the Netherlands an average of 12 cms) and the broader hip configuration will not change under the influence of hormonal treatment.

Source article:
TransGenderCare.com : Medical/Hormonal : Hormone Treatment in Transsexuals

[FingerLakes]

Was Amy fired from her school? She really was the fucking best guest
What KATGuh should I nominate her for?

[ghauck]

Are there any cases of the reverse, a woman transitioning to a male and competing with males?

If not I wonder why...