Latest Episode
Play

Go Back   Keith and The Girl Forums Keith and The Girl Forums Show Talk

Show Talk Talk about the show

View Poll Results: Have you been any part of a stick em up?
Yes 1 5.88%
No 16 94.12%
Voters: 17. You may not vote on this poll

Like Tree20Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-20-2023, 02:05 PM   #11 (permalink)
Senior Member
2022 Marathon Kickstarter Backer2020 Marathon Kickstarter Backer24-hour Marathon 2018 Fundraiser Backer24-hour Marathon 2017 Fundraiser Backer57-hour Marathon 2015 Kickstarter Backer38-hour Marathon 2014 Kickstarter Backer54-hour Marathon 2013 Kickstarter Backer
 
shoebootie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: new jersey
Posts: 652
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeathInGrasp View Post
I get your point but I feel capitalism creates social disparities and massive wealth disparities and contributes to people turning to crime.
Yeah there's gotta be some kind of middle ground between a socialist dictatorship and capitalist oligarchy parading as democracy.
The Girl and Apia resurrected like this.
(Offline)   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2023, 03:18 PM   #12 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2022
Posts: 106
Quote:
Originally Posted by shoebootie View Post
Yeah there's gotta be some kind of middle ground between a socialist dictatorship and capitalist oligarchy parading as democracy.
what if that was a false binary? What if free market capitalism was by far the best organization system the world has ever seen and Oligarchy parading as democracy was a knock on effect of government intervention?

"I shall not trade one king 10,000 miles away for 10,000 kings 1 mile away." Democratic tyranny of the few by the many is the issue my dear friend (in both systems - just more obvious the further you slide away from capitalism and into collectivism).
(Offline)   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2023, 03:22 PM   #13 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2022
Posts: 106
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeathInGrasp View Post
I get your point but I feel capitalism creates social disparities and massive wealth disparities and contributes to people turning to crime.
I'm sorry but this is very wrong. For this statement to be true the communist (thus not capitalist) societies have no (i'll spot you less) disparities and crime? Fell like you may need to revisit these areas of your history studies.
(Offline)   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2023, 09:19 AM   #14 (permalink)
Senior Member
2022 Marathon Kickstarter Backer2020 Marathon Kickstarter Backer24-hour Marathon 2018 Fundraiser Backer24-hour Marathon 2017 Fundraiser Backer57-hour Marathon 2015 Kickstarter Backer38-hour Marathon 2014 Kickstarter Backer54-hour Marathon 2013 Kickstarter Backer
 
shoebootie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: new jersey
Posts: 652
Quote:
Originally Posted by MongoMike View Post
what if that was a false binary? What if free market capitalism was by far the best organization system the world has ever seen and Oligarchy parading as democracy was a knock on effect of government intervention?

"I shall not trade one king 10,000 miles away for 10,000 kings 1 mile away." Democratic tyranny of the few by the many is the issue my dear friend (in both systems - just more obvious the further you slide away from capitalism and into collectivism).
shaddup.
XenoTitty likes this.
(Offline)   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2023, 12:12 AM   #15 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Niedernhausen, Germany
Posts: 2,459
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeathInGrasp View Post
I get your point but I feel capitalism creates social disparities and massive wealth disparities and contributes to people turning to crime.
I get that! I also think the capitalism in the US is especially intense. My point is that other systems also create big problems. When I lived in Poland as a child I know people were afraid to speak freely like in China or Russia today. They were afraid to go to jail for being critical about the government.
The level of alcoholism were insane. So this is not the solution either.
(Offline)   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2023, 10:47 AM   #16 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2022
Posts: 106
Quote:
Originally Posted by shoebootie View Post
shaddup.
This is a strong well formulated argument. You must be a proud person at such depth and intense introspection.
(Offline)   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2023, 10:50 AM   #17 (permalink)
Senior Member
2022 Marathon Kickstarter Backer2020 Marathon Kickstarter Backer24-hour Marathon 2018 Fundraiser Backer24-hour Marathon 2017 Fundraiser Backer57-hour Marathon 2015 Kickstarter Backer38-hour Marathon 2014 Kickstarter Backer54-hour Marathon 2013 Kickstarter Backer
 
shoebootie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: new jersey
Posts: 652
Quote:
Originally Posted by MongoMike View Post
This is a strong well formulated argument. You must be a proud person at such depth and intense introspection.
Yup! Gimme the KATGuh for 2023 Best Forums Comments

Highlight reel of each time I tell you to shaddup and get fucked.
XenoTitty likes this.
(Offline)   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2023, 10:58 AM   #18 (permalink)
Senior Member
2022 Marathon Kickstarter Backer2020 Marathon Kickstarter Backer24-hour Marathon 2018 Fundraiser Backer24-hour Marathon 2017 Fundraiser Backer57-hour Marathon 2015 Kickstarter Backer38-hour Marathon 2014 Kickstarter Backer54-hour Marathon 2013 Kickstarter Backer
 
shoebootie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: new jersey
Posts: 652
On the real, though, does Murf realize how ridiculous and contradictory it sounds to say there could be heroin use without addiction... like experimental or recreational... He said that and I was just like NOPE NAH NO.

And then not 10 minutes later he described the exact shit that every experimental/recreational person who is "self medicating" turns into - stealing from their family and selling shit and doing crimes.
Apia resurrected likes this.
(Offline)   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2023, 11:03 AM   #19 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Niedernhausen, Germany
Posts: 2,459
Quote:
Originally Posted by shoebootie View Post
Yeah there's gotta be some kind of middle ground between a socialist dictatorship and capitalist oligarchy parading as democracy.
I agree here!
I just don’t agree with the thought that capitalism is to blame for everything including a guy who traumatizes someone with a gun.
It has to be the fault of the gun guy somehow too. Otherwise no one is responsible ever.
I was raised in an unfree country and I’m not walking around slapping people and blaming it on communism.

Last edited by Apia resurrected; 03-23-2023 at 11:08 AM.
(Offline)   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2023, 12:06 PM   #20 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2022
Posts: 106
Quote:
Originally Posted by Apia resurrected View Post
I agree here!
I just donít agree with the thought that capitalism is to blame for everything including a guy who traumatizes someone with a gun.
It has to be the fault of the gun guy somehow too. Otherwise no one is responsible ever.
I was raised in an unfree country and Iím not walking around slapping people and blaming it on communism.
Doesn't this hold for druggy who steals shit, they are responsible for stealing not the drug. Isn't it the person who is stealing that is the problem not the drug user with self control? Drug use on it's own is a victimless crime (thus is it even a crime?) it is the violence and theft/trespasses against others for the drugs that is the real issue.

This idea of anyone who uses drugs becomes an addict and all actions are therefore the dugs responsibility and exonerates the individuals actions is the exact knock on of only discussing "rights" and never pairing them to responsibility. This has been the pattern since the 60s.
(Offline)   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:43 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2023, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
Keith and The GirlAd Management plugin by RedTyger