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Old 08-13-2023, 07:37 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I don’t care what anyone thinks.

This video is beautiful and emotional.
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Old 08-13-2023, 09:13 PM   #22 (permalink)
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So glad I just finished the most recent Chu&A… Craig, sounds like you meant to send this video to your friend "Kevin." (I'm not making any value judgements on the video cause that feels like dangerous territory and not the point, just trying to say ummmm good intentions, wrong audience?)

Seriously though thanks for these tapes, hearing Keith on acid was a fuckin sweet delight.
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"Apia" I was gonna let the first comment go but your persistence turns me on.

Poison: a substance that is capable of causing the illness OR death of a living organism when introduced or absorbed.

Regarding the toxicity of psychoactive mushrooms:
For the most part, mushrooms with significant psychoactive effects fall into the following 2 groups [1] :

Mushrooms containing ibotenic acid and muscimol (isoxazoles) – Amanita gemmata, Amanita muscaria (also called fly agaric or soma), and Amanita pantherina (also called panther or panther amanita); these are not to be confused with the deadly Amanita phalloides, Amanita verna, and Amanita virosa.

Mushrooms containing psilocybin – Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe cubensis, Gymnopilus spectabilis, Panaeolus species (eg, Panaeolus foenisecii), and Psathyrella foenisecii

The timing of symptom onset is important for distinguishing life-threatening or severe mushroom poisonings from less serious poisonings (eg, those involving hallucinogenic mushrooms), which typically have an onset of symptoms well within 5 hours of ingestion. If symptoms such as vomiting, diarrhea, and abdominal pain begin 5 hours or more after ingestion, mushrooms that can cause potentially life-threatening or severe toxicity (eg, A phalloides or Cortinarius spp) should be considered.

Source: https://emedicine.medscape.com/artic...ew?form=fpf#a4

(The full paper has plenty more information and the word "poison" or "poisoning" is used frequently.)

At the end of the day, this argument you are forcing is at best a semantic one beneath your scientific background. That said, you decided to take this opportunity to flex and within minutes I was able to debunk the essence of YOUR argument that no one was even having.

also, is your lab hiring?

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This all sounds good.

Of course there are deadly mushrooms! Like Amanita phalloides, also called the death cap.
That's a good hint. But this is not a magic mushroom. Unless you see magic in making you dead.
But I was talking about those that contain psilocybin. They have a very hight lethal dose. It's higher ( hihi) than that of caffeine.

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„Wife, what’s for dinner?“
“ I made death caps with pasta!”

Please pass!

As a person born in Poland where mushroom hunting is a national hobby, probably because in the past it was necessary I of course know most deaths happen when people confuse death caps with other mushrooms. Mostly champignons.
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Old 08-14-2023, 12:16 AM   #25 (permalink)
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HELLO PEOPLE!!!

Ever think of CAFFEINE?!
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HELLO PEOPLE!!!

Ever think of CAFFEINE?!
In the morning, yes!
But also here, you had to really try to die from it and would most likely not make it.
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Here the puking would save you again.

Healthline:

A cup of coffee has around 100 to 200 milligrams of caffeine. An energy drink contains anywhere from 50 to 300 mg of caffeine. A can of soda typically has less than 70 mg.

So even with the most highly caffeinated energy drink, you would still have to drink around 30 of them in rapid succession to reach the 10 g range.

Chances are, if you tried to drink that much, your body would stop you before you reached toxic levels.
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I'm nervous that he thinks Angel Olsen came up with Tougher Than the Rest
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This all sounds good.

Of course there are deadly mushrooms! Like Amanita phalloides, also called the death cap.
That's a good hint. But this is not a magic mushroom. Unless you see magic in making you dead.
But I was talking about those that contain psilocybin. They have a very hight lethal dose. It's higher ( hihi) than that of caffeine.


I’m taking away your “science” degree.
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