735: Innocence Lost

[Keith]

"If we were in jail, your mouth would be first."

[spooky]

i thought the movie was obvious, but just not spelled out. the coin used by the character to open the vent, later, another open vent, missing money,and the coin left behind. the "bad guy" watching his feet for blood after a murder, later, walking out from the wife, looking at his feet for blood. the mexicans were drug dealers, i really didnt think they needed to be anything more than a stereotype, the story starts off with the narration of the MAIN character, ed tom bell, and ends with him...etc etc

but enough people couldnt follow, i suppose a movie cant be so close to real life, and things need to be spoon fed to the audience, this is the good guy, this is the bad guy, so, yeah, i do concede the coen brothers failed to please a wide audience, if that was their goal.

[Borri Hotchuk]

The whole movie is a commentary on violence, each character is a different take on the nature of violence. Loved it... Violence is a force of nature just like the killer, it doesn't have an arc or an ending.

[blounty]

Can i just say i love the quote from this episode.

Keith: Patrice i am having your asshole!

Absolutley classic!

[darksun3173]

I've downloaded No County a few a weeks ago, and I still haven't watched it yet. After listening to Keith talk about it I don't think I want to watch it now.

Edit: I am not saying that the show spoiled it. It just sounds like a crap movie.

[Bebe]

Originally Posted by darksun3173

I've downloaded No County a few a weeks ago, and I still haven't watched it yet. After listening to Keith talk about it I don't think I want to watch it now.

Edit: I am not saying that the show spoiled it. It just sounds like a crap movie.

If you watch it with this expectation you will probably enjoy it more. Movies are rooned for me all the time by my own expectations and hype from others. Go into the viewing thinking it's average at best and you might like it.

[Keith]

Originally Posted by spooky

i thought the movie was obvious, but just not spelled out. the coin used by the character to open the vent, later, another open vent, missing money,and the coin left behind. the "bad guy" watching his feet for blood after a murder, later, walking out from the wife, looking at his feet for blood.

Maybe I was in a coma during the explanation part.

[Posterboy]

I saw the movie when it first came out with a friend of mine who was seeing it for the second time. He loved the movie but I felt it was average at best. The movie was far too long and the scenes are drawn out. If I look at my watch during a movie, the movie cannot be good. I've seen plenty of long (3 hour) movies and been entertained the entire time (Braveheart, Lord of the Rings, Gladiator, etc.). This movie was crap. Not much happens in the movie. I will say that the suspense built up in some of the scenes was great but the story line was simply drawn out. The way the movie was ended was indeed as Keith put it, a "cop out". I'm paying money for an ending to a story. Even some words at the end saying what happend would have been great. I know when a movie has great deep meaning but if most people can't find this meaning by watching the movie, it defeats the purpose of the movie. I know I'm a new poster and all that but this movie was shit and I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. One of the best movies in recent time to me was The Prestige. Great ending, great story, great acting. Fuck old country.

[standardman]

I'm writing this at 5.30 in the am after a playing gta4 while listening to the episode so pardon any unwieldy sentences.

I really enjoyed No Country For Old Men but I get why people don't like it. The marketing sold it as more a blockbuster thriller movie which it really isn't. I was actually surprised how closely they stuck to the book for such a widely released film. McCarthy isn't a friendly or welcoming writer – his books are dense and self-reflective, violent and bleak and tend to end with ambiguity - which hardly makes them obvious box office draws.

No Country is less concerned about the money than how these characters deal with this unstoppable force who can not be reasoned with.

The deaths of the lead characters were clear but not lingered on.

I really liked the way Chigurh looked at his boots when leaving the wife's house. Thanks to him moving his feet out of the way of the blood when he killed the other bounty hunter, we know what he's checking for and therefore the fate of that character.
We didn't need to see it and we didn't need him to say it. It's the difference between seeing someone burst into a room with a gun and blast someone sitting in a chair in the face and seeing a cartridge eject and a hand drop.

As for Llewelyn Moss, we saw the girl he was drinking with dead, we saw all the carnage around and it showed him dead.

In the end of the movie, Chigurh is hit by a car, he gets out and carries on. The last we see of the character is him walking off, he cannot be stopped.

Tommy Lee's recollection of a dream at the end is the entire movie.

Alright then. Two of 'em. Both had my father in 'em . It's peculiar. I'm older now then he ever was by twenty years. So in a sense he's the younger man. Anyway, first one I don't remember to well but it was about meeting him in town somewhere, he's gonna give me some money. I think I lost it. The second one, it was like we was both back in older times and I was on horseback goin' through the mountains of a night. Goin' through this pass in the mountains. It was cold and there was snow on the ground and he rode past me and kept on goin'. Never said nothin' goin' by. He just rode on past... and he had his blanket wrapped around him and his head down and when he rode past I seen he was carryin' fire in a horn the way people used to do and I could see the horn from the light inside of it. 'Bout the color of the moon. And in the dream I knew that he was goin' on ahead and he was fixin' to make a fire somewhere out there in all that dark and all that cold, and I knew that whenever I got there he would be there. And then I woke up.

Like I said, I get why you didn't like it and I'm not judging you for it, but you do seem a little too quick to judge people who do like it. Although for the record, I do immediately want to shoot anyone who can't talk about a movie without mentioning Goddard and auteur theory in the face.

Also the guy who plays Niko Bellec in GTA4 just killed his career, which is a shame because he was good.

[axis_of_evil]

Originally Posted by standardman

Also the guy who plays Niko Bellec in GTA4 just killed his career, which is a shame because he was good.

I agree... the dummy didn't even think about the downloadable content (at least for the 360.) They're going to need a voice for Niko what with the new missions/storyline/etc. He could've negotiated. Hopefully he hasn't blown it.