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Old 06-22-2009, 10:39 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Are you really mad? Look people believe in all kinds of things. A person asked him to pray for his mother and Robert did. Some people would give the credit to God. Some to the surgeons. Some to the patient's resilience.

Doesn't seem like something to get upset over. It's not like he's saying he withholds prayers from other people so that they will die.
I am not mad at people for using magical thinking. It is human nature and even when people aren't at the end of their rope they will turn towards things that simply do not make sense in order to help them out.

This isn't the Robert's friend coming in and thanking Robert for helping and Robert being modest. This is Robert using his prayer as evidence of power. Through out the rest of the episode I had a little bit of hope when Robert mentioned that he wasn't a doctor and he can't give advice like that... I though, oh ok, maybe he is just doing this for entertainment purposes. But no, later in the episode he clarifies that he is saying it only because there are some states where he would be breaking the law.

It is people that claim that they have helped literally saved a person's life that piss me off. These claims can keep people away from seeking actual medical advice from a real fucking doctor.

Even later on in the episode he mentions that every time someone tries to actually test his psychic abilities, he can't do shit... WELL GUESS WHAT, THAT MEANS YOU AREN'T FUCKING PSYCHIC.

God isn't coming down and going on talk shows and talking about how he saved some guy. BEHOLD MY POWER REGIS AND KATHY LEE, I HAVE MAGICALLY MADE DOCTORS DO THEIR FUCKING JOBS. Robert is TAKING CREDIT FROM THE SURGEONS, its fucking different and it isn't OK.
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Old 06-22-2009, 10:52 PM   #42 (permalink)
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I have a strange feeling QuickPhix has some personal vendetta against psychics and shit in general. Did you get a bad reading recently, bro?
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Old 06-22-2009, 10:57 PM   #43 (permalink)
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I have a strange feeling QuickPhix has some personal vendetta against psychics and shit in general. Did you get a bad reading recently, bro?
A psychic must've told QuickPhix the day of his death.
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Old 06-22-2009, 11:00 PM   #44 (permalink)
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I am not mad at people for using magical thinking. It is human nature and even when people aren't at the end of their rope they will turn towards things that simply do not make sense in order to help them out.

This isn't the Robert's friend coming in and thanking Robert for helping and Robert being modest. This is Robert using his prayer as evidence of power. Through out the rest of the episode I had a little bit of hope when Robert mentioned that he wasn't a doctor and he can't give advice like that... I though, oh ok, maybe he is just doing this for entertainment purposes. But no, later in the episode he clarifies that he is saying it only because there are some states where he would be breaking the law.

It is people that claim that they have helped literally saved a person's life that piss me off. These claims can keep people away from seeking actual medical advice from a real fucking doctor.

Even later on in the episode he mentions that every time someone tries to actually test his psychic abilities, he can't do shit... WELL GUESS WHAT, THAT MEANS YOU AREN'T FUCKING PSYCHIC.

God isn't coming down and going on talk shows and talking about how he saved some guy. BEHOLD MY POWER REGIS AND KATHY LEE, I HAVE MAGICALLY MADE DOCTORS DO THEIR FUCKING JOBS. Robert is TAKING CREDIT FROM THE SURGEONS, its fucking different and it isn't OK.
To me it does seem like you are "mad at people for using magical thinking". That's almost exactly what you've said here. Your first sentence is contradicted by your entire stance on this subject.

If Robert is full of shit and nothing he says helps or hurts then I don't see why it's a problem. He's not keeping people from going to the doctor or forcing anyone to do anything they aren't comfortable with.
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Old 06-22-2009, 11:13 PM   #45 (permalink)
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To me it does seem like you are "mad at people for using magical thinking". That's almost exactly what you've said here. Your first sentence is contradicted by your entire stance on this subject.

If Robert is full of shit and nothing he says helps or hurts then I don't see why it's a problem. He's not keeping people from going to the doctor or forcing anyone to do anything they aren't comfortable with.
I can be fair and say that my first sentence was a little misleading. What I should have said was that I am not mad at people for using magical thinking to get themselves through problems. I don't like it, and when I run into it I try and talk them through the conclusions they have leapt to in a rational manner to help them see the problems with their reasoning and come to the right information themselves.

The fact that you don't see it as a problem does not mean it isn't a problem. His actions are lending credibility to a field that can lead people to believe that there are easy answers and quick fixes to hard problems like disease and poverty. Get your thumbs out of your ass and visit What's the harm in believing in psychics?.
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I have a strange feeling QuickPhix has some personal vendetta against psychics and shit in general. Did you get a bad reading recently, bro?
I'm just mad because I thought DAH-VEED was only talking to me.
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Old 06-23-2009, 12:00 AM   #47 (permalink)
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I'm more/less on the QuickPhix boat, minus the anger and motivation to post before reading his.

If I were in that same situation, I'd find it highly inappropriate for anyone to think of or thank someone who used their prayer to help cure or ensure safety through a medical procedure before the surgeon, even a nurse. But if that's what someone believes, so be it.

Im just too skeptical. That said, I love Robert as a guest. Even if I am not necessarily a believer, I hold 100% interest in the readings

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Old 06-23-2009, 12:13 AM   #48 (permalink)
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I'm not a real believer in the stuff, but Robert is a very fun guest, and must be (or be in contact with) a saint to do a credible reading with Keith and Chemda poking him.
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I can be fair and say that my first sentence was a little misleading. What I should have said was that I am not mad at people for using magical thinking to get themselves through problems. I don't like it, and when I run into it I try and talk them through the conclusions they have leapt to in a rational manner to help them see the problems with their reasoning and come to the right information themselves.

The fact that you don't see it as a problem does not mean it isn't a problem. His actions are lending credibility to a field that can lead people to believe that there are easy answers and quick fixes to hard problems like disease and poverty. Get your thumbs out of your ass and visit What's the harm in believing in psychics?.
You are no better than a Jehovah's Witness or religious zealot trying to convert a non believer to god.
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Old 06-23-2009, 07:43 AM   #50 (permalink)
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You are no better than a Jehovah's Witness or religious zealot trying to convert a non believer to god.
Someone needs to look up the word "rational". I am not trying to dissuade people from their religious beliefs. I am no evangelical atheist. But when I hear that people are about to throw there money away, yeah I try and stop it.
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