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View Poll Results: Do you think these forums need to be moderated?
Yes, there should be some level of moderation 46 42.99%
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Old 01-27-2008, 05:07 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Old 01-27-2008, 05:08 PM   #82 (permalink)
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again your completely not understanding what i am saying......
nobody else is questioning my understanding, if you mean something else, explain it better. i honestly apologize if i am unable to follow.
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Old 01-27-2008, 05:11 PM   #83 (permalink)
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SNA was killing the forums, its not anything you can dispute.
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SNA itself was not a bad thread.
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Old 01-27-2008, 05:13 PM   #84 (permalink)
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As far as I can remember this is the only official reason given for thread deletion ...

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It's space. No matter how much space we have, EVENTUALLY a 100,000 page thread will have to be deleted. If we waited till later jorjo would end up slicing wrists. As for why not other threads were deleted, they were. Many old threads no one even noticed. The big ones still had to go. Some threads I didn't want to see deleted were because of mistakes trying to fix Ichabod, rajjy and jorjo's cute game of bringing up old threads. Don't worry, I deleted those for you too. Point taken.

Also people do appreciate when threads stay on topic. I do like that this brought that up. But again, that's not the reason.

I do however, to be clear, believe in censorship.
Keith specifically said not staying on topic was NOT the reason. He also hasn't said anything about the forums being "ruined" or new people not being welcomed.

Until he (or Chemda) does this entire thread is moot.
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Old 01-27-2008, 05:16 PM   #85 (permalink)
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let me explain my view.

SNA itself was not bad. the thread, the nontopical slow chat nature of it.

it was the rules of that thread, the nontopical nature, that spread to other threads. you guys allowed it to happen, nobody gave a shit when happened from SNA, it was allowed to spread.

people began, unimpeded, to hijack all threads. it got its start in SNA.

a good metaphor, Arc, that you might get, is a campfire. a campfire is not bad. forest fires(mostly) are bad. they can be, and often are, started from camp fires.

does that make sense?

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As far as I can remember this is the only official reason given for thread deletion ...



Keith specifically said not staying on topic was NOT the reason. He also hasn't said anything about the forums being "ruined" or new people not being welcomed.

Until he (or Chemda) does this entire thread is moot.
he said in chat why, and it was a much broader explanation. lots of people saw it, including SNA people.
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Old 01-27-2008, 05:16 PM   #86 (permalink)
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As far as I can remember this is the only official reason given for thread deletion ...



Keith specifically said not staying on topic was NOT the reason. He also hasn't said anything about the forums being "ruined" or new people not being welcomed.

Until he (or Chemda) does this entire thread is moot.
Not true... Moderators can control the post whoring... spamming... and creation of a new threads that are pointless and eventually manage the amount of data on the servers (if that is in fact the main issue) so over the long term this kind of action does not have to happen so drastically again.
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Old 01-27-2008, 05:20 PM   #87 (permalink)
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he said in chat why, and it was a much broader explanation. lots of people saw it, including SNA people.
Well, I wasn't in the chat and I didn't see it.

/shrug
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Old 01-27-2008, 05:27 PM   #88 (permalink)
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let me explain my view.

SNA itself was not bad. the thread, the nontopical slow chat nature of it.

it was the rules of that thread, the nontopical nature, that spread to other threads. you guys allowed it to happen, nobody gave a shit when happened from SNA, it was allowed to spread.

people began, unimpeded, to hijack all threads. it got its start in SNA.

does that make sense?
Somewhat.

But again, it wasn't the thread its self that was the problem, so why delete it rather than the spin-off threads and the nontopical posts in other areas?

Those few individuals should have been warned, banned, emailed, PMed or whatever, to try to correct the behavior.
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Old 01-27-2008, 05:40 PM   #89 (permalink)
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Somewhat.

But again, it wasn't the thread its self that was the problem, so why delete it rather than the spin-off threads and the nontopical posts in other areas?

Those few individuals should have been warned, banned, emailed, PMed or whatever, to try to correct the behavior.
keith is a bit more heavy handed than that, though.

and, im sure he would rather not babysit/moderate
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Old 01-27-2008, 05:47 PM   #90 (permalink)
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But I doubt I'll be around to see it. The deletion of the *NA threads was malicious and was disrespectful towards the fans who have done so much to "spread the word", and build the "community" which attends events and buys merchandise.
Disk space is CHEAP at the moment, I don't believe that was an issue.

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What happened to the dramatic goodbye?

Not that I want you to go, but I was just noticing the contradiction.
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