Everybody be cool - it's the PoPo

[Jesse James]

I'll never call the cops. They are becoming militarized, overly aggressive & the government is getting to big to support it's self - so it needs to crack down on small issues and fine the hell out of everyone.

I can show you more than a couple of links of cops basically executing people in their own homes, after killing their pets.

I'll protect myself, thanks..

[Blitzgal]

Originally Posted by DaveNJ

And yes, the prison industrial complex is absolutely a problem. However, I don't see a legit libertarian solution to the problem of drug use/abuse, either, which is the motor of the PIC. Without significant government intervention for treatment, rehab, and educational programs to prevent drug use the problems, criminalized or decriminalized, are massive from a social perspective.

I'm in full agreement there. Decriminalization is a pipe dream anyway, because the pharmaceutical, alcohol and tobacco industries will never let it happen.

[dEadERest]

Originally Posted by DaveNJ

Thanks for making a synopsis of my absurd positions.

couldn't resist

Originally Posted by DaveNJ

and if those don't work then you need to go back to the drawing board and find changes that do work.

there now, I see progress! So, can we stay at the drawing board in the mean time?

And, Dave; what if they do work?

Originally Posted by Blitzgal

Decriminalization is a pipe dream anyway, because the pharmaceutical, alcohol and tobacco industries will never let it happen.

So, everybody, give up, there's no point, it's over.

[DaveNJ]

Originally Posted by dEadERest

couldn't resist
there now, I see progress! So, can we stay at the drawing board in the mean time?

And, Dave; what if they do work?

If they do work, then refer to point #1: bring it to Camden, Compton, etc.

[dEadERest]

Originally Posted by DaveNJ

If they do work, then refer to point #1: bring it to Camden, Compton, etc.

dude, you guys' gov't is so corrupt, you'd be way down the list. Near the top would prolly be Montana, Nevada, maybe Texas . . but, remember, your neighbors are looking to you for change. Think globally, act locally.

And what do you know about Compton?

[DaveNJ]

Originally Posted by dEadERest

dude, you guys' gov't is so corrupt, you'd be way down the list. Near the top would prolly be Montana, Nevada, maybe Texas . . but, remember, your neighbors are looking to you for change. Think globally, act locally.

And what do you know about Compton?

Your point is that you want to alter police procedure. That's a federal change. It wouldn't be implemented gradually, it'd be a large, and largely uniform, change.

"Think globally, act locally," is just a slogan. You live in a large federal republic where local changes can become national changes.

If you feel this strategy can work in poor, urban areas then fine, advocate for it, but if not you need to look for different solutions, or secession.

[dEadERest]

Originally Posted by DaveNJ

It wouldn't be implemented gradually, it'd be a large, and largely uniform, change.

wow . . well, Dave, you seem like a nice person. It's been fun and I wish you all the best.

The liberty community here in NH is committed to peaceful resistance and change in our lifetime. And that's my focus of attention.

[Blitzgal]

Originally Posted by dEadERest

So, everybody, give up, there's no point, it's over.

Did I fucking say that?

[dEadERest]

Originally Posted by Blitzgal

Did I fucking say that?

no, i did. you said the part before that.

[DaveNJ]

Originally Posted by dEadERest

wow . . well, Dave, you seem like a nice person. It's been fun and I wish you all the best.

The liberty community here in NH is committed to peaceful resistance and change in our lifetime. And that's my focus of attention.

But if you want change in your lifetime, and if you want said change to be positive, you must acknowledge the framework within which you're working. Without any focus on that framework your change either won't happen, or it won't be beneficial.