How many dead soldiers in Iraq does it take...

[ooda]

Originally Posted by deuce

The firefighters who rushed into the towers but didnt rescue anyone are they "heroes" in your eyes? PLEASE tell us your fuckin criteria cause I would LOVE TO KNOW!! Fuckin CHUTZPA!! For Shame

Yeah, they're heroes, and I would consider a soldier who died doing something heroic is a hero. A guy who gets killed in a road side bomb I'd consider courageous because he is in Iraq knowing that his life is at risk. It's just I wouldn't label everyone a hero automatically.

I just checked it out in the dictionary, and it seems to fit.

courageous - not deterred by danger or pain; brave.

hero - a person, typically a man, who is admired or idealized for courage, outstanding achievements, or noble qualities

[firehog29]

Originally Posted by 36D

Okay, seriously people. How much freaking free time do you think I have??

well, you sure have been posting in this thread a lot, hmmmmmmmm

[ooda]

Originally Posted by ozdog

Can you name a soldier not in your family who has died in Combat or in the Military even. Not many can.

You should know at least one soldier who has passed. He was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor. Watch the news. Care a little.

I know i can not stop you guys from doing what it is that your going to do, but i can voice my opinion, just like you are.

If your looking for a name then, look up SSG Booker, research him. Probaly won't find much, go to 1/64 AR, and that man is a hero, you'll learn his underwear size cause people cared and loved that man.

Unfortunately (or fortunately) I don't know anyone who has died in Iraq. My friend shipped out about a year or so ago.

I've got a fair bit of extended family that died during WWII, some as soldiers, though it's not really relevant in this case. My Dad was also in the army, though it was conscription, and luckily he wasn't shipped out anywhere. I'm not too sure about any other relatives, as I'm yet to meet any of them.

[ooda]

Originally Posted by deuce

I understand how you feel from a passionate and personal viewpoint but if you take a step back and look at things from a bigger perspective. It is so much more important to be able to get those that do not have that direct relationship, to basically feel like they do. Anything that can do that to those people is I think the best thing.

Like you said, these soldier made the ultimate sacrifrice, and they did this for everyone, therefore everyone should try to connect to their deaths, and honor them, and if that is hard to do and there is anyway to do it then that is a good thing

The problem is that just showing the names will not do all that much. Showing the families would be, while a bit off-color, a better way to show people the heart-ache that they go through because of fallen husbands, wives, siblings, and children. I don't know if it's fair to put the people through that though.

[ooda]

Originally Posted by 36D

What is the glass called when you're a realist?

It means constantly thinking the glass is half full, and no matter what, you'll never be able to fill it.

[36D]

Originally Posted by ooda

It means constantly thinking the glass is half full, and no matter what, you'll never be able to fill it.

I like that.

[ooda]

Originally Posted by 36D

I like that.

I've got no problem with people being realists. They at least try to keep things in perspective, and realize that the world around them isn't necessarily amazing, but it also isn't all bad. In a way it's like trying to do away with presumptions with the world, and take things head on.

[36D]

1st Lt. Debra A. Banaszak was 35 when she died on October 28th, 2005 at Camp Victory Kuwait from noncombat-related injuries. No one seems to know the true cause of her death because military authorities werent even telling her mother how she died. Debras son, Mark, was 15 at the time of his mothers death.

Debra often called herself the glowing gourmet because she didnt know how to cook much outside of a microwave.

She liked camping with her son and going to the movies. She was the type of person to send cards to her friends to congratulate them on new jobs. Little things to show someone she cared.

Her favorite flowers were sunflowers and she decorated her entire kitchen with them. Her son laid sunflowers on her casket at her funeral.

Number the Dead:
http://www.nyunews.com/vnews/display.../450e2d4ca6917

[ozdog]

I take it, that was the name of the Soldier you represented on the 17th.

[36D]

Originally Posted by ozdog

I take it, that was the name of the Soldier you represented on the 17th.

Very astute!