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Old 06-28-2014, 01:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey are there any other parents that notice all their children's friends are: ungrateful, spoiled, awful, sarcastic-mini-hipster versions of their parents?

I took my daughter and her friend out for ice cream yesterday. I'm poor, (single father paying child support) and on a budget. I said you may have a cone and a scoop. My kid orders a vanilla single scoop. What does her friend do? Orders a double. Dipped in chocolate. Then precedes to look at me, (after taking a monster bite of her monster cone) and smile at me. "It only cost a bit more." This coming from the friend that announced, "Why's your tv so small? My dad's tv is way bigger!" when she enters my home. I about lost it.

What really kills me is; never a thank you. Never. My daughter is 12 and NONE of her friends say thank you. They are all entitled - regardless of broke or wealthy parents.

Now. Do you just take comfort that your kid isn't going to grow up to be a selfish, narcissistic asshole? Just grin and bear it with these kids? You can't parent other people's kids, but can you say something?

Ugh.

I asked my daughter's mom last night about it. We commiserated and came to the conclusion that our kid's generation is the worst. They never say please or thank you. You take them go-cart racing and is soon as they're getting out of go-cart; they announce they're bored. They treat adults like their peers; making rude and sarcastic comments.

IT'S AS IF NO ONE IS PARENTING THESE KIDS! No one is telling them ANYTHING about manners, life, or how to treat others. Is it like this in other countries? Is it just Americans? Would love to hear back from some KATG parents on this.
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Old 06-28-2014, 01:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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a bunch of 4-12 year olds came to an event i did and ended up helped the entire time picking up ping pong balls off the floor for the players; no reward, just fun doing stuff together. during the day camps i've run, i've witnessed very sincere compassion and empathy from one kid to another if somebody pooped their pants or felt left out. the children for whom i am a Christmas elf are exceptionally mannerly with their pleases and thank yous. the children here in the valley are hard working and smart; i think that has a lot to do with their exposure to and work/play beside people across generations/sexuality/race/religion.

not saying there aren't the assholes who demand from their parents, but to throw all these children under the bus as a whole, is ridiculous.

if you expect children to understand the things we do as adults for them or how big grown up stuff like a non-family member's financial states work, you'll be disappointed and angry every time, especially you as an authority figure. let that shit go, brah. she doesn't know shit about your budget.

our kids are growing up more open and compassionate than any before them. good things, bro. good things.
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Still waiting for any KATG parents to comment...
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yes, i know shit because i work with your kids when you're not around.
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I adopt the "grin and bear it" approach. Calling them out would probably only embarrass your daughter, and is unlikely to improve their behavior.
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Old 06-28-2014, 11:36 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Hey canines, I agree, there are plenty of kids out there that are very entitled, and this is something that I work with my kids on regularly, making it so that they are the kids saying please and thank you, looking at people when you are talking to them etx etx.

And yes, there are kids out there that use their manners and are genuinely appreciative.

The only thing that we do is when we have our kids friends over, they play by our rules, they don't get something unless they say please and thank you etx, my house, my rules...and if I'm not buying it for my kid, I'll be damned if some other little bastard is going to get a double chocolate whatever the fuck just becuase they think they can get away with it!

Other than that, I (and my wife) just complain about the other kids and move on...I have enough trouble with my 2 boys let alone raising everyone else's kids for them!


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Old 06-29-2014, 01:48 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Calling them out would probably only embarrass your daughter, and is unlikely to improve their behavior.
Yeah. Too late!

Godamnit. I embarrassed my daughter, ( after multiple times having this new obnoxious friend over) I digressed into old-white-y-conservative male douche, (is this hidden in our DNA?) "In my time, we said PLEASE and THANK YOU!" type shit.

My daughter went to an art gallery/ music potluck with me tonight. I made broccoli/ carrot/ onion/ quinoa with Braggs. She said it was bland. She did, however, accept my apology. I grew up with an ultra-conservative Christian dad; so I understand how fucking awful it is to have your friends called out. It's embarrassing. I promised her if I had an issue I'd talk to her privately about it.

It's all horrible because my daughter is all I have. I constantly worry if she has enough friends. Is she playing too much Xbox360? Does playing the violin mean she's pushed enough? Why won't she do soccer camp? She's 12 and her tits are coming in. Is she gonna end up like aunt Jill? Three abortions, 23, and relying on shit-head boyfriends for a life?

Ugh.

I just want everything for her. I'm an American. Aren't I entitled to everything? FUCK!

I just want everything. Sometime. Also, at all times.
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Yeah, I bet it wasn't the 1st time.

I was going to take a cheap shot at you, but you clearly take this whole parent thing seriously and love your mini-piffo, so I'll just say "all the best".



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And yes, there are kids out there that use their manners and are genuinely appreciative.
First of all, you understand that parenting yer kid does not necessarily mean yer gonna be their friend. RESPECT!

I was in and out of foster care; followed by being raised by hippie parents that I essentially raised. Was it cool smoking pot with my dad at age 15, skinny dipping in Lake Michigan and listening to Bob Dylan's Desire [1975] album? Hell yes.

I also didn't want my girlfriend & friends to take me to the bar when I turned 21. Why? Drinking beer seemed foolish to a full-blown needle junkie.

Anyway. Let me get back on track here.

I just want my daughter to grow up knowing how to COMMANDEER THIS BITCH aka 'Life.' All her friends, (regardless of socio-economic background) seem to not be giving any sort of clue as to how things work.

I had to figure things out on my own. In many cases I got lucky. I just don't see these kids - as fortunate.
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