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Old 09-21-2012, 10:09 PM   #451 (permalink)
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Define healthy.
Well, the six-stack burger is probably low on micros.
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:25 PM   #452 (permalink)
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This is the coolest recipe ever!
Also, bonus points for eating everything with your bare hands. Seriously dudes, try eating a rare steak with your hands when you're not around to faux pas anyone, it feels like you just wanna go out and rip somebody apart.



and then after you're like



Really, I just can't bring myself to make elaborate dishes. I feel like it's something you have to enjoy as a hobby. I also don't have enough foresight to cook something for 6 hours. I think a big attraction of rare or black and blue steaks is it's like 10 minute prep time if you really want to push it.

Also, the way I make salads is to just wash the individual vegetables, cut out any inedible parts (the step thing from tomatoes, though I normally buy grape tomatoes, and ends off cucumbers) then just take bits out of each one to formulate a salad.

Prepping a basic garden salad seriously takes like 20 minutes to wash and cut all the vegetables. My ex-roommate used to do it, and it's no wonder he rarely ate salads.

Mine is: pre-washed spinach+arugula bag, grape tomatoes, a couple of: avocado, grape tomatoe, bell pepper, baby carrots. Wash anything that needs washing. Throw the spinach bag into a salad bowl and add oil+vinnegar. All other vegetables on the side. Eat! Longest prep time is if I get the stupid bell peppers.

And meals at my parents are just a neverending ordeal. It's like 1 hour prep, 40 minute dinner, then clean up all the prep utensils. And they wonder where all their time goes.
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Old 09-22-2012, 02:20 AM   #453 (permalink)
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Also, bonus points for eating everything with your bare hands. Seriously dudes, try eating a rare steak with your hands when you're not around to faux pas anyone, it feels like you just wanna go out and rip somebody apart.



and then after you're like



Really, I just can't bring myself to make elaborate dishes. I feel like it's something you have to enjoy as a hobby. I also don't have enough foresight to cook something for 6 hours. I think a big attraction of rare or black and blue steaks is it's like 10 minute prep time if you really want to push it.

Also, the way I make salads is to just wash the individual vegetables, cut out any inedible parts (the step thing from tomatoes, though I normally buy grape tomatoes, and ends off cucumbers) then just take bits out of each one to formulate a salad.

Prepping a basic garden salad seriously takes like 20 minutes to wash and cut all the vegetables. My ex-roommate used to do it, and it's no wonder he rarely ate salads.

Mine is: pre-washed spinach+arugula bag, grape tomatoes, a couple of: avocado, grape tomatoe, bell pepper, baby carrots. Wash anything that needs washing. Throw the spinach bag into a salad bowl and add oil+vinnegar. All other vegetables on the side. Eat! Longest prep time is if I get the stupid bell peppers.

And meals at my parents are just a neverending ordeal. It's like 1 hour prep, 40 minute dinner, then clean up all the prep utensils. And they wonder where all their time goes.
This is why I eat so much cottage cheese. just open up the tub and start eating. got all the macros you need. fuck veggies. seriously so much god damned work.
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Old 09-22-2012, 10:47 AM   #454 (permalink)
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Define healthy,

Low in sodium
Low in saturated fats
High in healthy fats like fish and vegetable oils
Not processed
Not deep fried
As closeto its natural state as possible
Cooked by your own two hands

I believe in cooking for yourself. You are in control of the ingredients. You want six skinny Burgers, buy 3$of extra lean ground surloin and make them yourself. If you dont care about the fuel you are putting into the machine dont expect the machine to work at top efficiency.

I definitely have trouble with myweight. I know that. But I eat out 2x a week maximum and every other meal is homemade, from soups, stews, currys sauces, breads, desserts. My son eats home made 95% of the time. I eat too much thats why I struggle with weight. if I ate 6 mcd burgers in a meal a day youd have to lift me out of my bed with a crane.
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Old 09-22-2012, 12:24 PM   #455 (permalink)
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Define healthy,

Low in sodium
Low in saturated fats
High in healthy fats like fish and vegetable oils
Not processed
Not deep fried
As closeto its natural state as possible
Cooked by your own two hands

I believe in cooking for yourself. You are in control of the ingredients. You want six skinny Burgers, buy 3$of extra lean ground surloin and make them yourself. If you dont care about the fuel you are putting into the machine dont expect the machine to work at top efficiency.

I definitely have trouble with myweight. I know that. But I eat out 2x a week maximum and every other meal is homemade, from soups, stews, currys sauces, breads, desserts. My son eats home made 95% of the time. I eat too much thats why I struggle with weight. if I ate 6 mcd burgers in a meal a day youd have to lift me out of my bed with a crane.
There's a disconnect in your thinking. You struggle because you eat too much, not because of what you eat.

Also, in the past decade or so there's been a lot of compelling (unfortunately not concrete) research that saturated fat has very little to do with heart disease. Since the 90's the FDA and food industry as a whole has been pushing the "low fat" diet craze/trend and yet heart disease rates have skyrocketed. Yet French people who eat crazy amounts of saturated fats in the form of pork, duck, butter, cheese, and cream have a decently low rate of heart disease. Not to mention French people smoke like chimneys. And don't say that they have better hearts because of all the wine they drink!

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There's a disconnect in your thinking. You struggle because you eat too much, not because of what you eat.

Also, in the past decade or so there's been a lot of compelling (unfortunately not concrete) research that saturated fat has very little to do with heart disease. Since the 90's the FDA and food industry as a whole has been pushing the "low fat" diet craze/trend and yet heart disease rates have skyrocketed. Yet French people who eat crazy amounts of saturated fats in the form of pork, duck, butter, cheese, and cream have a decently low rate of heart disease. Not to mention French people smoke like chimneys. And don't say that they have better hearts because of all the wine they drink!

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This is usually never a good idea, it's like trying to convert to a different religion
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This is usually never a good idea, it's like trying to convert to a different religion
Sigh, I know. I've been getting better at not bringing it up in person but internets bring out the troll.

It hurts the most when it's the people you care for.
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Sigh, I know. I've been getting better at not bringing it up in person but internets bring out the troll.

It hurts the most when it's the people you care for.
Just think of the nagging your parents do when you come over. What you do is the same in reverse. They may not realize they're doing it, but at least you can rise above it.

It's also better to think I'm this way because I'm special and awesome, and not just because I googled around for people who are smarter than me and followed their advice
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Old 09-23-2012, 08:17 PM   #459 (permalink)
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There's a disconnect in your thinking. You struggle because you eat too much, not because of what you eat.

Also, in the past decade or so there's been a lot of compelling (unfortunately not concrete) research that saturated fat has very little to do with heart disease. Since the 90's the FDA and food industry as a whole has been pushing the "low fat" diet craze/trend and yet heart disease rates have skyrocketed. Yet French people who eat crazy amounts of saturated fats in the form of pork, duck, butter, cheese, and cream have a decently low rate of heart disease. Not to mention French people smoke like chimneys. And don't say that they have better hearts because of all the wine they drink!

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For me i should consume less calories then someone like you. Like say 1800 calories to your 3000. Thats the difference of about one fair sized meal a day. It is easy to go over my calorie count with something as simple as 2 tablespoons of salade dressing rather then 1....


I have no idea why smoking and fat eating french men dont keel over from their diet, best guess, they eat in small quantites, burn the saturated fats in their daily actvity so it doesn't end up in a ring of fat at their belts.

Perhaps too it is the quality of the foods they are eating, home made, fresh fruits and veg along with their pate foie. It must be something.

You know your diet is garbage if you are scarfing back burgers from mcd even if you remove the buns....justify it all you like, it will catch up wth you.
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We have different challenges. I may not go over my daily limits with 1 extra tablespoon of dressing early in the day. However, 3k for me doesn't feel the same as 3k for you would, it feels as your 1.8k, so there's more oppprtunities for error and 1 teaspoon of oil regularly will still add up.

Also, it's really easy to consume something dumb like a 24 pack of ice pops (fucking love ice pops) or the value bag of doritos.

Plus try to get 200g of protein when the typical american meat dish is a pile of carbs and fat-slathered tiny piece of meat. And if the woman cooks, it's guaranteed carbfest.

What I'm saying is, it's all harrred in different ways.

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