Keeping Motivated!!

[campy]

Originally Posted by DWarrior

We have different challenges. I may not go over my daily limits with 1 extra tablespoon of dressing early in the day. However, 3k for me doesn't feel the same as 3k for you would, it feels as your 1.8k, so there's more oppprtunities for error and 1 teaspoon of oil regularly will still add up.

Also, it's really easy to consume something dumb like a 24 pack of ice pops (fucking love ice pops) or the value bag of doritos.

Plus try to get 200g of protein when the typical american meat dish is a pile of carbs and fat-slathered tiny piece of meat. And if the woman cooks, it's guaranteed carbfest.

What I'm saying is, it's all harrred in different ways.

I totally get that D, every one struggles. I was explaining to our friend Astigos who was questioning my diet choices. Personally I think you can't go wrong with home made, fresh and portioned correctly for your metabolism. Skinny people with hot metabolisms can still be unhealthy if their diet is crammed with garbage.

My advice, Start cooking for yourself. Tailor make your food to meet your needs. Stop making excuses about that, it's just lazy to eat out and counter productive to your goals. You don't have to "cook elaborately" cook smartly. The black and blue steak, excellent choice. It's WAY cheaper too...I mean WAY WAY cheaper to cook for yourself. It's also sexy, girls drool for a man who cooks. Create a simple menu, say 5 dishes you can do well and you're set.

[Astigos]

Originally Posted by campy

I totally get that D, every one struggles. I was explaining to our friend Astigos who was questioning my diet choices. Personally I think you can't go wrong with home made, fresh and portioned correctly for your metabolism. Skinny people with hot metabolisms can still be unhealthy if their diet is crammed with garbage.

My advice, Start cooking for yourself. Tailor make your food to meet your needs. Stop making excuses about that, it's just lazy to eat out and counter productive to your goals. You don't have to "cook elaborately" cook smartly. The black and blue steak, excellent choice. It's WAY cheaper too...I mean WAY WAY cheaper to cook for yourself. It's also sexy, girls drool for a man who cooks. Create a simple menu, say 5 dishes you can do well and you're set.

What a lie. No one, and I mean NO ONE has ever been impressed that I am a professional chef, regardless of which genitals they possess.

Also, I consume between 2000 and 2400 calories a day and lose weight at incredible rates so we're not too different you and I.

[Astigos]

Originally Posted by DWarrior

We have different challenges. I may not go over my daily limits with 1 extra tablespoon of dressing early in the day. However, 3k for me doesn't feel the same as 3k for you would, it feels as your 1.8k, so there's more oppprtunities for error and 1 teaspoon of oil regularly will still add up.

Also, it's really easy to consume something dumb like a 24 pack of ice pops (fucking love ice pops) or the value bag of doritos.

Plus try to get 200g of protein when the typical american meat dish is a pile of carbs and fat-slathered tiny piece of meat. And if the woman cooks, it's guaranteed carbfest.

What I'm saying is, it's all harrred in different ways.

Serious truth. To eat 200 grams of protein in a day is the best kind of struggle. Sometimes I try to eat entire chickens. It's a totally fun way to have lunch.

[campy]

Originally Posted by Astigos

What a lie. No one, and I mean NO ONE has ever been impressed that I am a professional chef, regardless of which genitals they possess.

Also, I consume between 2000 and 2400 calories a day and lose weight at incredible rates so we're not too different you and I.

maybe you just haven't met the right woman. I've dated the chef, it was worth it.

I must be the only woman on the planet who'd LOVE a guy who cooks...But, to be fair, I was more concerned about money at 25 (either earning or potential to earn). Now at 40 i'd love if he could cook and share the chore.

Anyhooo, back to your carbless weight training talk.

[campy]

Originally Posted by Astigos

Serious truth. To eat 200 grams of protein in a day is the best kind of struggle. Sometimes I try to eat entire chickens. It's a totally fun way to have lunch.

an entire SKINLESS chicken right??

apparently eggs are the one thing from nature that has the most protein per serving...is that true?? Also, Greek yogurt has 20% more protein then reg yogurt...

Sidebar, I hate the word protein because it defies the grammatical rule, I before E except after C

[DWarrior]

apparently eggs are the one thing from nature that has the most protein per serving...is that true?? Also, Greek yogurt has 20% more protein then reg yogurt...

A whole egg is mostly fat calories. But an egg white is almost 100% protein, so maybe that's how it's true? Problem is a single jumbo egg white is only like 5g protein (which is only 20 calories), so you need to go through like 6 to get a good amount (luckily eggs are pretty cheap).

Also, servings are arbitrary units that are based on consumption convention and marketing rather than the food's calories or volume. I'm not sure who decides them, so I never really use them. There are some technical rules about nutritional label reporting, like being able to say 0g if it's only 0.5g (or something to that effect), so I'm sure a big motivator for serving sizes is to take advantage of the allowed rounding rules so they can market stuff as "0g _____".

For example, 1 bag of microwave popcorn is 3 servings of popcorn (I think). In reality, 2 bags of popcorn serve 1 DWarrior for 1 movie

Sidebar, I hate the word protein because it defies the grammatical rule, I before E except after C

That's weird

[DWarrior]

Originally Posted by Astigos

Serious truth. To eat 200 grams of protein in a day is the best kind of struggle. Sometimes I try to eat entire chickens. It's a totally fun way to have lunch.

What precautions do I need to take when cooking chicken to minimize risk of salmonella?

My minimalist chicken prep is to buy packs of boneless skinless chicken breasts, dice them, mix with olive oil and pepper, and pan fry. I normally wash them, then dice on a cutting board, and move them to the pan. Wash my hands. Add oil and pepper, mix with hands. Wash my hands, and cook with a spatula until it's light brown. Then just clean everything with soap and warm water.

My mom has a much more elaborate cleaning ritual involving boiling hot water.

[Astigos]

Originally Posted by DWarrior

What precautions do I need to take when cooking chicken to minimize risk of salmonella?

My minimalist chicken prep is to buy packs of boneless skinless chicken breasts, dice them, mix with olive oil and pepper, and pan fry. I normally wash them, then dice on a cutting board, and move them to the pan. Wash my hands. Add oil and pepper, mix with hands. Wash my hands, and cook with a spatula until it's light brown. Then just clean everything with soap and warm water.

My mom has a much more elaborate cleaning ritual involving boiling hot water.

When I eat a whole chicken I'll usually only eat 25 to 50 percent of the skin. Saturated fat is still beneficial, it's just needed in lesser quantities.

Salmonella is VERY overstated imo. Salmonella bacteria is naturally present in all chicken and eggs... and how many people do you know or have heard of actually contracted Salmonelosis? Just cook your chicken so that it's not raw. The NYC department of health and mental hygiene recommends poultry be cooked to 165F but I can tell you if you actually do cook it to that temp it'd be dryer than the Sahara. It's generally recommended that it be at least 145F which is the temperature which >99% of pathogens are killed.

The biggest thing is to never cross contaminate raw chicken (as well as eggs). Just make sure no raw foods ever come in contact with cooked/ready-to-eat foods. Additionally I recommend buying a box of food grade latex gloves if you're worried. Frankly I recommend using gloves whenever cooking or handling food at any time anywhere. I hate touching food. Whenever I work in restaurants, I'm the ONLY fucking person that ever wears gloves and people are touching the food ALL THE TIME. And I'm talking about fine dining top 50 restaurants in NYC. That has really dissuaded me from eating out unless necessary.

Sidebar: The rule "I before E except after C" is no longer taught in schools because there are more exceptions to that rule than words that abide by the rule.

[campy]

Get an instant read meat thermometer, they are under 20 bucks. I NEVER cook any meats without using my thermometer. It is too easy t over cook meat.

If you don't cook don't trust the tricks, use the thermometer.

I cook the chicken until the breast is 170 at least. you can eat pink pork, you can't eat pink chicken....unless it's tandori then YUMMMMMM


And D, you are a smart ass (weird)

[campy]

Originally Posted by Astigos

When I eat a whole chicken I'll usually only eat 25 to 50 percent of the skin. Saturated fat is still beneficial, it's just needed in lesser quantities.

Salmonella is VERY overstated imo. Salmonella bacteria is naturally present in all chicken and eggs... and how many people do you know or have heard of actually contracted Salmonelosis? Just cook your chicken so that it's not raw. The NYC department of health and mental hygiene recommends poultry be cooked to 165F but I can tell you if you actually do cook it to that temp it'd be dryer than the Sahara. It's generally recommended that it be at least 145F which is the temperature which >99% of pathogens are killed.

The biggest thing is to never cross contaminate raw chicken (as well as eggs). Just make sure no raw foods ever come in contact with cooked/ready-to-eat foods. Additionally I recommend buying a box of food grade latex gloves if you're worried. Frankly I recommend using gloves whenever cooking or handling food at any time anywhere. I hate touching food. Whenever I work in restaurants, I'm the ONLY fucking person that ever wears gloves and people are touching the food ALL THE TIME. And I'm talking about fine dining top 50 restaurants in NYC. That has really dissuaded me from eating out unless necessary.

Sidebar: The rule "I before E except after C" is no longer taught in schools because there are more exceptions to that rule than words that abide by the rule.

I always eat my chicken too dry..it's why I don't like roasted chicken. BUT I am really anal about making sure the meat is cooked properly. I wash my hands (with soap) if I touch raw meat. So say I am putting batches of raw chicken in the pan to brown off, in between batches I will wash my hands before touching anything else, knives, dish clothes. I even rinse the taps after I touch them with raw meat hands. I have a cutting board exclusive for raw and cooked meats (one side for raw, other side for cooked)

I work with a woman who contracted Salmonelosis from a restaurant meal (high end restaurant) took her over a year to recover fully. I just don't screw around with that shit.