NewYork

[Subsonix]

Originally Posted by punk'n

I heard that some dude is doing stand-up on the 15th! You should check it out. I'm going to.


But srsly, the MoMA is sick awesome, Washington Square Park and Central Park are sick awesome. Uptown is crowded and subways are gross. Oh and I really love the Bowery Poetry Club.

I've put them all on my list.

CHECK OUT THIS PLACE.

La Lucha

I will be going there.

[thepetek]

Originally Posted by MrBigDeal

Keith says he "made it in New York". Yet, he does not have one utility bill in his name. Interesting.

Exactly was is the measure of a man's dignity and success? Keith is already smooching of his new gf. She's not even in in the country yet. He revels in the non-payment of debts.

Exactly what type of man is he?

Does the average KATG listener condone free loading?

All USA.

C'mon, old man.

Apparently he semiquasi owns or owned a car which either resulted in an insurance bill (Oh, it's a fucking utility in NY-- or he was stickin' it.)

Everything else either seems a melange of goldman/gambino/ or a straight up hustle.


Credit and Debit is for suckers, bitch. He who dies with the most yachts that aren't ever gonna be paid off wins. Ask Kenneth Lay.

Your argument is invalid, your Steampunk Churchill picture does not involve a cigar in a brass holder, your trolling is subpar, And frankly I'm disappointed.

I find none of this debate spirited. And I don't even blame the kids. I just don't think your heart is in it anymore. Just spank your kids and don't take it out on the people here when the wife says you shouldn't. Sometimes you have to 'Russian Engineer' the system.

Anyway, you did draw out an interesting William post based on what we could argue was your original question, and I'll shift and hit that next post. Suppose that will get more a grasp on yer worldview, though, I swear to Christian Slater's Funtime Stigmata, If your little avatar doesn't get a tout suite little brass steampunk cigar holder, I will lose all respect for you.

Wait? What the fuck is Dr. Who? Is that some weirdo Euro Caricature of Dr. Phil as Winston Churchill?

[thepetek]

Originally Posted by william

You do raise a valid question, though - what is the measure of a man?

Originally, I thought this was the most interesting part. But, oh, such a mere tip.

Originally Posted by william

That, well...

Subjective.

Subjective to your collective culture, subculture, ethical view.

I would say a man who receives help is no less a man than one who raises himself up, so long as that man has the dignity to be beholdent to those who have aided.

To what extent? I mean one could see this as either loans well made or well played. You either are forever dependent on your success because of Citibank, or played a good rate.

Originally Posted by william

That he is no less of a man as long as he achieves his place without causing harm to others.

I think you want to use 'if' instead of 'as long as'

Originally Posted by william

You are a man when you openly love, when you offer succor, when you acknowledge and despise your faults... I donno.

When 5 years pass and you still have the same questions.

That's not meant as a negative. 5 years is fuck all.

But this is way too Catholic school, down to the word succor. (Yes, you may be a evanscatalogical, but guess where it started? Maybe I just hate the word succor.)

Originally Posted by william

What is a man?

What is the measure of a man?

What is an electron?

What is the measure of an electron?

No, I'm not getting into 'dual electron or dual proton' systems and whether or not they can produc...

No, basically, just a single tiny thing bouncing in space.

And the totally hacky, what is an erection, what is the measure of an erection.

And the fact that I have explained East/West politics by that little misunderstanding...

[william]

Originally Posted by thepetek

Originally, I thought this was the most interesting part. But, oh, such a mere tip.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by thepetek

To what extent? I mean one could see this as either loans well made or well played. You either are forever dependent on your success because of Citibank, or played a good rate.

Not to loans nor to companines, but to those individuals who help you, who see you through and aid you, who point the way and whose words come to echo in your deeds as you evolve into the person that lays ahead. Those who raised you up may now be despised, but that doesn't negate their effects.

But beyond this, it is being beholdent to all those who help you in your development.

Being beholdent is not a debt to be paid, it is an acknowledgment and an appreciation of those who made you part of your measure.

Originally Posted by thepetek

I think you want to use 'if' instead of 'as long as'

No. Not the way I read it.

"That he is no less of a man if he achieves his place without causing harm to others," denotes a comparison to being a man by achieving your place though harm - that you are not less of a man just because you don't cause harm.

"That he is no less of a man as long as he achieves his place without causing harm to others," denotes a requirement not to rise through the cause of harm.

Originally Posted by thepetek

That's not meant as a negative. 5 years is fuck all.

Not sure what you mean by the five years thing.

Originally Posted by thepetek

But this is way too Catholic school, down to the word succor. (Yes, you may be a evanscatalogical, but guess where it started? Maybe I just hate the word succor.)

Possibly, echos of a former life.

As a stone-cold atheist, I view life (and above all consciousness) as a precious accident, and I see love and empathy to be our greatest achievements, right along there with our mental accomplishment. Succor I use in it's dictionary sense - To give assistance to in time of want difficulty or distress - definition of To give assistance to in time of want difficulty or distress by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia. - without theological intent.

evanscatalogical? Even scatological? Full of shit

Originally Posted by thepetek

What is an electron?

I was hoping more for:

Won't somebody tell me, answer if you can!
Want somebody tell me, what is the soul of a man?

I do wonder, though, what others think is the measure of a man?

[Jo_Culprit]

Originally Posted by MrBigDeal

Of no concern to you. The purpose of my thread was to unmask the charlatan that is Keith Malley. Check my profile. I'm a listener since 2005!

I have no respect for Keith. I went though different stages in the last few years. I once was where most of you idiots are now. Fact is. Keith is a waiter with a mike. Awesomely romantic for the first few years. Once the ether dissipates... nothing more than the freeloader he is and ever will be.

NewYork.

This thread is for the Lulz right?

I read all you're posts assuming you have a russian accent and its been quite entertaining. Your avatar just looks russian.

"In Soviet Russia, Deal is Big You"

"The Keith Malley, he is not man. Real man drink Vodka and have responzibility, Real man no mooch and iz not doing the load that is free."

[Rhian]

Originally Posted by Jo_Culprit

This thread is for the Lulz right?

I read all you're posts assuming you have a russian accent and its been quite entertaining. Your avatar just looks russian.

"In Soviet Russia, Deal is Big You"

"The Keith Malley, he is not man. Real man drink Vodka and have responzibility, Real man no mooch and iz not doing the load that is free."

Russian or lolcats.

[thepetek]

Originally Posted by william

Being beholdent is not a debt to be paid, it is an acknowledgment and an appreciation of those who made you part of your measure.

Fair enough. As long as they can't drag you into doing something against your ethics, I hear ya. "Just making sure", I guess you could say. Acknowledging the giants who's shoulders you stand upon, without having to try to get them large women...

Originally Posted by william

No. Not the way I read it.

"That he is no less of a man if he achieves his place without causing harm to others," denotes a comparison to being a man by achieving your place though harm - that you are not less of a man just because you don't cause harm.

"That he is no less of a man as long as he achieves his place without causing harm to others," denotes a requirement not to rise through the cause of harm.

It's an awkward sentence. Your way and my way. I guess what I'm asking is can you gain manhood through evil? (Pure or half assed?)

Originally Posted by william

Not sure what you mean by the five years thing.

Meant "As long as we've been KATG fans talking to each other" In retrospect, 6 years might be more accurate. We're still knocking on the same doors, but mind you, I don't think that's a bad thing.

Originally Posted by william

Possibly, echos of a former life.

As a stone-cold atheist, I view life (and above all consciousness) as a precious accident, and I see love and empathy to be our greatest achievements, right along there with our mental accomplishment. Succor I use in it's dictionary sense - To give assistance to in time of want difficulty or distress - definition of To give assistance to in time of want difficulty or distress by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia. - without theological intent.

evanscatalogical? Even scatological? Full of shit

Despite what any form of media says, I find atheists the most consciously moral and, well, thoughtful people I know. Most well reasoned about it, too.

Originally Posted by william

I was hoping more for:

Won't somebody tell me, answer if you can!
Want somebody tell me, what is the soul of a man?

I do wonder, though, what others think is the measure of a man?

Who's to say I won't, William? Did you expect I would just post it?

[DWarrior]

Originally Posted by Jo_Culprit

This thread is for the Lulz right?

I read all you're posts assuming you have a russian accent and its been quite entertaining. Your avatar just looks russian.

"In Soviet Russia, Deal is Big You"

"The Keith Malley, he is not man. Real man drink Vodka and have responzibility, Real man no mooch and iz not doing the load that is free."

http://translate.google.com/... <-- hit listen

[MrBigDeal]

After reading the thread I have concluded the worth of a man is the amount of children he produced.

Therefor Keith Malley is a big fat ZERO.

Thanks America.

[BrianAlt]

Originally Posted by MrBigDeal

Thanks America.

Thank God you're back!