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Old 09-12-2008, 01:18 PM   #71 (permalink)
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YES!

It does. I work for a publishing company and work with dates constantly. In a meeting yesterday "9/11" was said about a hundred times and each time everyone kind of paused. It is very weird... sad.
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Old 09-12-2008, 01:33 PM   #72 (permalink)
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To further Bebe's point, on 9/11 nearly 4000 Americans died. Since the beginning of the Iraq occupation, even by Bush's own numbers over 200,000 Iraqis have died -- other studies put the number closer to a million. I'm not even including the death toll in Afghanistan. I'm NOT SAYING that 9/11 wasn't a huge deal to us, but when you put it into perspective on a global scale it's easy to understand how someone from another country might think we're taking advantage of what happened to us in order to strike out blindly across the world.
Hippies have no shortage of "Bush did this" shit to counter everything.
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Old 09-12-2008, 02:33 PM   #73 (permalink)
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Hippies have no shortage of "Bush did this" shit to counter everything.

And assholes never have a problem missing the point entirely.
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Old 09-12-2008, 02:35 PM   #74 (permalink)
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Hippies have no shortage of "Bush did this" shit to counter everything.
Sometimes even hippies are right.
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Old 09-12-2008, 02:46 PM   #75 (permalink)
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Global poverty unfortunately is a basic principle of human society. Ever since there have been large civilizations there has been disgusting treatment of the lowest economic classes. It's just a fact of life...terrible fact but a fact none the less.

Large scale terrorist attacks on first world countries are not a fact of life and are avoidable given proper defense. America has the ability to stop attacks like 9/11 yet it still happened. Spain has the ability to stop attacks like the train bombings yet it still happened. World hunger can and should be treated, but it's a fact of life. Terrorist attacks shouldn't be.
This is a ridiculous statement.

War is a fact of life. War is a product of people wishing to inflict harm on others. Terrorism is a product of people wishing to inflict harm on others, so it is war. Thus, terrorism is a fact of life.

Then the only way you can contend terrorism shouldn't be a fact of life is that it is preventable. By your own admission world hunger is preventable, so why is that a fact of life?

There will always be a lowest rung on the economic ladder; that is a fact of life. That the very same group will starve is not.
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Old 09-12-2008, 03:16 PM   #76 (permalink)
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And assholes never have a problem missing the point entirely.
Wow, I thought only American conservatives were quick to lump everyone who didn't agree with them as tree huggin' liberal hippies.


Guess I was wrong.

BTW, that is referencing Picard, just so there is no confusion.
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Old 09-12-2008, 03:19 PM   #77 (permalink)
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My grandfather used to call the Civil War, The War When the North Invaded America.
I am a native Californian living in New England and I refer to it as the war of northern aggression.
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No, the world has not been cruel to me. Until recently I taught a class on global poverty. Reading about, and teaching about, what goes on in the world is sad and disheartening.
The powers behind 911 believe in eugenics.
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War is a fact of life.
War is the health of the state.

911 was a classic false flag attack, a modern Reichstag along the lines of Operation Northwoods. I understand those who wish to put it behind them and move on. I stand with those who are trying to push for an independent investigation.

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I'm sure we can put the C&W aside for an appropriate period.
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No.

I did make sure to wish people a happy September 11th though. I don't want people to think I'm an asshole.
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