Syria

[Scumhook]

Originally Posted by scotticus

When confronted with murky waters, I deliberate.

I push a mate in first.

If he doesn't come up, I quietly walk away...

[DJQuad]

Originally Posted by scotticus

When confronted with murky waters, I deliberate.

Not that you have it in you to actually have a thoughtful, insightful debate without resorting to personal insults when you're proved wrong, but...

Syria says it's ready to disclose the location of chemical weapons, stop production, and show its facilities to Russia and the U.N..

Do you think that's "enough" or do we draw that weird line in the sand that whenever chemical weapons are used, we need to suddenly be the world's humanitarians?

Where's the new red line? If nobody does anything, rogue states like North Korea, Iran, and others see that chemical weapons are fine. It would lead to pushing that line with biological, nuclear, and so on. That doesn't even include conventional weapons.

The U.N. is a joke. All they are good at is providing humanitarian aide after these atrocities happen.

[scotticus]

Originally Posted by DJQuad

Not that you have it in you to actually have a thoughtful, insightful debate without resorting to personal insults when you're proved wrong, but...

Syria says it's ready to disclose the location of chemical weapons, stop production, and show its facilities to Russia and the U.N..

Do you think that's "enough" or do we draw that weird line in the sand that whenever chemical weapons are used, we need to suddenly be the world's humanitarians?

Where's the new red line? If nobody does anything, rogue states like North Korea, Iran, and others see that chemical weapons are fine. It would lead to pushing that line with biological, nuclear, and so on. That doesn't even include conventional weapons.

I'm not sure what you're looking for and I don't really see where I was "proved wrong." I think I've been pretty consistent in my position that I don't have the answers.

Besides, I feel like I already shared my opinion on this. Read the first paragraph of the rambling bit you skipped over. I don't care about the mechanism by which the innocent are killed. Just that they are. Chemicals, bullets, napalm, machete or substandard healthcare... an innocent life is an innocent life. If I were a Syrian civilian right now, I'd really want someone to protect me, so in an ethical sense somebody should probably do something. The politics surrounding intervention will make taking military action difficult, and history has shown that simply arming the resistance, especially when they also don't like us, is probably a bad idea.

I'm glad I'm not in Obama's shoes right now... he's a flawed guy like any leader, but this is a fucked up situation. I'm not sure what I'd do.

[DJQuad]

Originally Posted by scotticus

Besides, I feel like I already shared my opinion on this. Read the first paragraph of the rambling bit you skipped over.

I read it all. That's what prompted my response.

If I were a Syrian civilian right now, I'd really want someone to protect me, so in an ethical sense somebody should probably do something.

That's supposed to be the U.N.'s job, but they always take a reactive stance instead of a proactive stance. That's why countries like Israel bypass their resolutions.

I'm glad I'm not in Obama's shoes right now... he's a flawed guy like any leader, but this is a fucked up situation. I'm not sure what I'd do.

Same here.

[scotticus]

Originally Posted by DJQuad

That's supposed to be the U.N.'s job, but they always take a reactive stance instead of a proactive stance. That's why countries like Israel bypass their resolutions.

I never really thought of the UN as an authoritative body as much as it's a place to talk about shit before you start hurling metal at each other. I'm not a historian, but I believe it was purposefully designed to lack teeth.

So, where was I "proved wrong"? Or are you just trolling again?

[DJQuad]

Originally Posted by scotticus

So, where was I "proved wrong"?

You weren't. It's fun to get your reaction, although threads like this are somewhat serious. Don't worry we'll be trolling each other in other threads soon enough.. heh.

[scotticus]

Originally Posted by DJQuad

You weren't. It's fun to get your reaction, although threads like this are somewhat serious. Don't worry we'll be trolling each other in other threads soon enough.. heh.

We should tell everyone how we e-mail each other back and forth and secretly like each other. JOKES ON YOU RETARDS. HAHAHAHAHA SPARROW YOU FUCKING IDIOT. YOU THOUGHT I WAS ON YOUR SIDE?!?!

Me, Quad and his imaginary fiancee hang out all the time. Have fun being angry, chumps.

heh.

[DJQuad]

Originally Posted by scotticus

We should tell everyone how we e-mail each other back and forth and secretly like each other.

Don't tell them that. The universe may implode.

[RefusingYouLiquor]

Jokes on us I guess....

[Scumhook]

Hey - happy 9/11 everyone!!

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I guess it's appropriate that everyone's discussing what to do with a bunch of fucking rag head terrorists on this auspicious occasion.



Seriously, why the fuck do you fucking yanks feel the need to fucking meddle in other people's shit? Fair enough after OBL pwnd NYC, but now? Really??

Start with legalising the ability for one person with a penis to marry someone else, without mandating that the 2nd person has a vagina (and vice versa). Then worry about what everyone else is fucking doing.