Syria

[lalalemon]

is it bad that Al Assad's whispery little lisp of an English accent makes me giggle?

[Enunciated Piffle]

The Whitehouse just released this email to people like myself who are dumb enough to subscribe to this administration's propaganda.

It is this:

Please share this message with others to make sure they know where I stand, and how they can stay up to date on this situation. Anyone can find the latest information about the situation in Syria, including video of tonight's address, here:

Syria | The White House

Thank you,

President Barack Obama

[Sparrow]

Originally Posted by Scumhook

Seriously, why the fuck do you fucking yanks feel the need to fucking meddle in other people's shit? Fair enough after OBL pwnd NYC, but now? Really??

Start with legalising the ability for one person with a penis to marry someone else, without mandating that the 2nd person has a vagina (and vice versa). Then worry about what everyone else is fucking doing.

it feeds the capitalists. We the People are no longer in control.

sugarsnap, we are super aware of our domestic situation. our foreign policy is wicked unpopular among us not in the least because we're broke, our infrastructure is failing, our kids economic futures are getting shafted, and our top billings in the world come from how many of our citizens we've locked up and how much we spend on military contracts. gay marriage, while a massively important civil right, isn't even first on the list of how we need to start fixing this mess.

if you want to help, help. if you want to criticize, get out of our way; we have work to do.

and for the record, i had family in the South tower and i'm willing to bet a number of our fellow KATGers did too. your gif is real cute, but in the poorest of taste. today is not the day.

[Cretaceous Bob]

Originally Posted by Sparrow

can we stop pretending what we're doing is humanitarian? for the true nature of what's happening, it's propaganda at best; "limited missile strikes" are not us riding in on a white horse. we've used, aided in the use, and have turned blind eyes to chemical attacks elsewhere in the very recent past. if we're going to put on our superhero cape, Africa and North Korea have longer standing and arguably larger atrocities.

you want dead kids? 8 year olds are being snatched from their families (that are murdered/raped in front of them), forced to murder their friends in initiations, and then forced to kill others in Uganda. they are killing the humanity of these children. in North Korean gulags, babies are strangled immediately after birth as policy. it is a, no shit, holocaust situation. we are knowingly allowing these things to happen and they've been happening for decades, but they aren't strategic thus worthy of our protection.

let's not ignore the blood on our hands. we continue to kill children with our drone strikes. it's a fact. we are killing children. people are afraid to leave their homes in places like Pakistan.

why syria? why now?

Bingo.

Originally Posted by Sparrow

it feeds the capitalists. We the People are no longer in control.

sugarsnap, we are super aware of our domestic situation. our foreign policy is wicked unpopular among us not in the least because we're broke, our infrastructure is failing, our kids economic futures are getting shafted, and our top billings in the world come from how many of our citizens we've locked up and how much we spend on military contracts. gay marriage, while a massively important civil right, isn't even first on the list of how we need to start fixing this mess.

I very much see We the People in control. The people gave a great big shit about foreign policy when it was Bush's foreign policy, but every goddamn liberal I know shut the hell up about foreign policy all of a sudden in 2008 and wouldn't shut up about healthcare. 2012 they still didn't want to talk about foreign policy and instead screamed about gay marriage. Now we don't have the healthcare they wanted and the overall health of the nation was sacrificed in favour of a politicized minority issue.

In 2008 I looked liberals in the eye and asked them why they were voting for a guy with an identical foreign policy as the guy they hated. Nothing but evasive double talk and a vote for Obama. In 2012 I asked them how exactly gay people wouldn't benefit more by the country voting on the best comprehensive plan for the overall good of the nation instead of destroying itself by being distracted by single issues. Nothing but evasive shifting in their seats and a vote for Obama.

If the people aren't in control, then whoever is in control is doing exactly what they asked for anyway, so it's completely immaterial. Right now the People are getting what they asked for.

[Enunciated Piffle]

I agree with some of what C. Bob has said here.

I'm embarrassed as hell I voted for Obama in 2012. Even if Mitt Romney scared the fuck out of me! The level in which liberals were placated and put to sleep by Obama is frightening.

Everyone just assumes he's not doing dangerous, neo-conservative agenda type shit. Danger!

[Cretaceous Bob]

I keep asking people how Mitt Romney would have been so much worse and nobody can ever give me a realistic scenario in which anything really bad would have happened. Most of it is just irrational gut fear.

[Enunciated Piffle]

Read Jon Krakeur's excellent expose of the Mormon faith book 'Under the Banner of Heaven'

Mormonism is one of the fastest growing cults in America today. Famed Sociologist Rodney Stark predicts by 2080 the Mormon population to be over 300 million.

This faith is extremely male dominated. Believes blacks were marked by God himself as punishment, and thus not allowed into Heaven. It is a sin for a white Saint to marry a black person, punishable by death. At it's fundamentalist core, (both Joseph Smith and Brigham Young had dozens of wives) and supported polygamy, which no doubt the religion will return to once in numbers. Also, they are extremely incestuous and promote pedophilia. The literally marry off their 14 yr old daughters to whoever is deemed 'Prophet'

The list goes on and on. No one ever talks about Mormonism because little is known. They are literally taking over America from their state of Utah, (they ended up here cuz they were kicked out of NY, then MO, then IL, then went to Utah Territory cuz they figured no one would come to mtns and stop them. Then America fought Mexico and won that area shortly after relocating there.

Mitt Romney's entire motivation for Presidency was to further the Mormon faith. THAT"S WHY!!! Lol. Everyone should read that book. Seriously. Fuck Scientology and Islam. Mormons are in America and just as terrifying.

[DJQuad]

Originally Posted by Enunciated Piffle

At it's fundamentalist core, (both Joseph Smith and Brigham Young had dozens of wives) and supported polygamy, which no doubt the religion will return to once in numbers.

How can anyone be for same-sex marriage and against polygamy?

[Sparrow]

polygamy has a long history of exploiting women and girls. i'm not against consenting adults doing their thing, but if we're talking large scale acceptance and practice on par with same-sex marriage stuff, probably not this part of the century. there's a lot of ground to be made up for.

[DJQuad]

Originally Posted by Sparrow

polygamy has a long history of exploiting women and girls. i'm not against consenting adults doing their thing, but if we're talking large scale acceptance and practice on par with same-sex marriage stuff, probably not this part of the century. there's a lot of ground to be made up for.

So does prostitution but that's legal in Nevada.

I see your point though. I just don't know why anyone would personally be against it if it consists of consenting adults.