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Old 11-14-2009, 09:22 AM   #2651 (permalink)
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I agree, even on the first one the uber stiff linearity of the gameplay got me some time to get used to ("Wait... I get killed because i turned right instead of left? What is this, Space Ace?")

But still the cinematic epic gets me every time. I hold my breath while playing like i'm watching the most gut wrenching action/war movie ever made (i guess "watching" is the key word...)
I play games to play games.
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Old 11-14-2009, 01:03 PM   #2652 (permalink)
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Gotta say though, the "BNo Russian" level is one of the most harsh, brutal and gut wrenching sequences i've seen in a game since the nuke in Modern Warfare 1.

Infinity Ward has balls.
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Old 11-14-2009, 02:10 PM   #2653 (permalink)
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Gotta say though, the "BNo Russian" level is one of the most harsh, brutal and gut wrenching sequences i've seen in a game since the nuke in Modern Warfare 1.

Infinity Ward has balls.
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I didn't find it brave so much as a cheap way to shock people and bait tabloids into promoting the game.

Worse still, it's a poorly designed, poorly written cheap shock:

The American infiltrated the Russian organization in a single day because rewrites and foreshadowing are for losers, you don't have to shoot the civilians but you can't shoot the terrorist or - again - make any impactful choice whatsoever, there's no clear idea of what this Makarov wants, of what you as a CIA agent are there to achieve or of why they don't just arrest/shoot him there and then.

No stakes, no motivation, no reason but it sure was shocking shooting those civilians! Or it would have been if they bothered to vary the models, instead of having you shoot the same handful of innocents over and over again. Maybe they were traveling to an octuplet convention.

But wait! It's all part of the terrorist plan to frame an American! Once they find your body they'll know you're CIA because 1) the CIA would train someone so well that he can infiltrate a terrorist organization in a day but once someone finds his body, they'll know he's American, even after being shot in the face. 2) knowing this, the CIA would obviously just leave you there after allowing a massacre to happen and you to be framed for it 3) terrorists don't show up on security cameras, which presumably is why they don't bother with disguises.

I've defended games many a time from people who read far too many tabloids and play far too few games but when the object of controversy is so lazily slapped together in a cynical way to generate attention, I just find myself disappointed and disgusted.
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Old 11-14-2009, 02:28 PM   #2654 (permalink)
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You make sense but it was pretty much the first time where i felt guilty for shooting at people in a game.
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Old 11-14-2009, 02:30 PM   #2655 (permalink)
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You make sense but it was pretty much the first time where i felt guilty for shooting at people in a game.
Be nice if you felt it was a choice, eh?
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Old 11-14-2009, 02:39 PM   #2656 (permalink)
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Be nice if you felt it was a choice, eh?
I got that afterwards. After Shepherd's speech i thought i would be killed if i didnt act accordingly. But.... Yeah...
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Old 11-15-2009, 11:14 AM   #2657 (permalink)
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Neither. The PC version doesn't have support for dedicated servers - meaning no ability to kick or ban cheating/abusive players, no custom maps, no custom mods and, well, none of things PC gaming does.

They basically gimped the PC version into Xbox live so they could charge for their map packs and, it wouldn't surprise me, their dedicated servers. And they'll keep doing it because people like that bought it anyway.
I got a look at the iscussion on the amazon forums.

I understand the point it comes from, but i find it ridiculous for one big point:

THE PUBLIC DOES NOT, NEVER HAS AND NEVER WILL HAVE A VOICE IN THIS TYPE OF MATTERS.

Boycotting the game wont change the attitude of developers. It will just convince them more that PC gaming is dead. So anyone who plays PC games and doesnt want to buy an XBox, PS3 or some other godawful retardation like that to play games, will be royally fucked.

I think it's hilarious how this gigantic mass of nerds thinks that they will be making a difference, in an age where decisions are made only by marketing groups, audiences are puppets who takle what they're given and even programmers are worth less than zero in the making of those big budgeted games.

This gigantic infestation of whining asses who flood boards with their "i canceled my order" complaints will be the death of PC gaming (if a rotten corpse can die). Cue to some retard spouting nonsense about buying consoles (fuck you).
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Old 11-15-2009, 02:56 PM   #2659 (permalink)
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Modern Warfare 2

I liked the No Russian level, I wasn't sure If Makarov would notice I wasn't killing people, so I shot a few that were already bleeding out. oh and the cops dumb enough to take on 4 dudes with full-auto weapons and armor. they deserved it.

I think the level was put in there to shock and get free press, and it worked. But it may have been done to see how evil this Makarov character is. To maybe get you to want him dead.

I consider MW2 an interactive action movie. Do you go see the newest Die Hard or Rambo because you want an Oscar-winning performance and story? No, you're there for the action. Going in with this attitude, I liked it a lot. And the concept was great, the locations interesting. And having to fight off the invading army in very familiar looking locations was pretty awesome.

Multiplayer is way improved and more fun. I thought I would hate the call sign things, and people being able to call in AC130's, Nukes, etc.. but it's actually hard to pull those things off. I don't see them often, if ever, at least someone call in a Nuke or EMP.
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Old 11-15-2009, 03:28 PM   #2660 (permalink)
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I consider MW2 an interactive action movie. .
Exactly. And it woks aces on that. The first one had some moents that left me with my heart in my throat. And this one delivers even more (COD 5 kinda sucked on that level)

BTW if anyone has some good reccomendation for any action game with BIG cinematic power, please say it. I'm a sucker for good gameplay but The movie feel gets me even more (Arkham has it in spades).
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