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Old 01-19-2010, 12:35 PM   #111 (permalink)
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Saw this today and laughed. Avatar is 5 Frames.



That said I still did like the movie.
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Old 01-19-2010, 03:08 PM   #112 (permalink)
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The only reason I can think of that the movie continues to make so damn much money is because the word is going around that it must be seen in IMAX 3D. So people who already saw it in regular format are seeing it again in 3D. Otherwise, I don't really know why the movie would make so much money. It was beautful and an okay story, but not one worth seeing two or three times in the theaters.
Yep, and not only are some people seeing it more than once because of that but they're paying twice the price they would have paid to see Titanic back in the late 90s. Inflation (and now the added cost of 3D) fucks these kinds of stats right in the asshole and the record is essentially meaningless unless you see it in context.

All Time Box Office Adjusted for Ticket Price Inflation
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Old 01-19-2010, 03:57 PM   #113 (permalink)
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You may think the record is meaningless, but watch the studio execs reactions to it. If this movie had flopped like some predicted, we wouldn't see another big risk taken on a movie like it for a while. Showing that people will pay extra to see a rehashed story in 3D only adds to the weight.

Now, the movie would need to hit $2.4bil to beat the adjusted-for-inflation number #1 spot of the 1939 Gone With the Wind release. It would need to hang on for about 20 more weeks to do that, and I'm not sure the fan base is there for that, no matter how many crazy websites I see.
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Old 01-19-2010, 04:26 PM   #114 (permalink)
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Now, the movie would need to hit $2.4bil to beat the adjusted-for-inflation number #1 spot of the 1939 Gone With the Wind release. It would need to hang on for about 20 more weeks to do that, and I'm not sure the fan base is there for that, no matter how many crazy websites I see.
It could easily overtake Gone With The Wind in inflation totals when DVD sales hit, especially if Blu-Ray exclusively offers a version with enhanced 3D or something. GWTW has had several re-released DVDs over the years, which is what continues to keep it up there. In terms of box office, probably not. Overall, definitely.

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Old 01-19-2010, 07:56 PM   #115 (permalink)
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Yep, and not only are some people seeing it more than once because of that but they're paying twice the price they would have paid to see Titanic back in the late 90s. Inflation (and now the added cost of 3D) fucks these kinds of stats right in the asshole and the record is essentially meaningless unless you see it in context.

All Time Box Office Adjusted for Ticket Price Inflation
Is there a way to see it in terms of actual inflation of the dollar, or is it only available by calculating ticket prices?

I'd like to see rank by number of tickets sold and rank by money made, as seeing the ticket price comparisons when the experience isn't really comparable doesn't do much for me. I wouldn't pay but maybe $2 a ticket if I was forced to see a film in a 30's era theater(maybe less), but I would pay $10 for surround sound, air conditioning, digital projectors and stadium seating.
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Old 01-19-2010, 08:32 PM   #116 (permalink)
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You may think the record is meaningless, but watch the studio execs reactions to it. If this movie had flopped like some predicted, we wouldn't see another big risk taken on a movie like it for a while. Showing that people will pay extra to see a rehashed story in 3D only adds to the weight.

Now, the movie would need to hit $2.4bil to beat the adjusted-for-inflation number #1 spot of the 1939 Gone With the Wind release. It would need to hang on for about 20 more weeks to do that, and I'm not sure the fan base is there for that, no matter how many crazy websites I see.
That's a fair way to look at it, it's not really the record itself that's significant but it's hugely significant that Cameron's massive gamble, and the gamble Fox took on him, has paid of in spades. You could say this bodes poorly for the future of narrative blockbuster cinema but then you'd remember that shithouse blockbusters like Transformers 2 have been made all along. I'm hoping screenwriting standards don't drop further just because the cinematographer has this fancy new toy. I guess get some idea when Spielberg and Jackson wheel out Tintin. Both of those guys have made narratively suspect movies lately so they're no more surefire than Big Jim is.

Speaking of crazy websites, I assume you're talking about those Avatards posting about how they suffer from depression at knowing they'll never have the opportunity to travel to Pandora in real life. Or fuck a 9 foot thundersmurf.


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Is there a way to see it in terms of actual inflation of the dollar, or is it only available by calculating ticket prices?

I'd like to see rank by number of tickets sold and rank by money made, as seeing the ticket price comparisons when the experience isn't really comparable doesn't do much for me. I wouldn't pay but maybe $2 a ticket if I was forced to see a film in a 30's era theater(maybe less), but I would pay $10 for surround sound, air conditioning, digital projectors and stadium seating.
No idea, but if anyone is going to have that data it's probably boxofficemojo so you could do worse than poking around there.
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Old 01-19-2010, 09:04 PM   #117 (permalink)
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I thought overall it was a good movie. It kinda reminded me of an alien pocahontas movie in a way. The technology they used in the movie was amazing. I watched it in 3D. The only way i would watch it in theaters again would be if i watched it in IMAX 3D just to see if the experience is any different.
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Old 01-20-2010, 09:22 AM   #118 (permalink)
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So they are going to these retarded lengths to get that metal right? And this metal sells for some retarded amount of money back on earth, like 200 million dollars an ounce.

Who the fuck is buying all this? Where are they getting this extravagant amounts of cash? and what they fuck are they making with this stupidly expensive metal?
And they call it Unobtain-ium... Should have called it something even more direct like must-relocate-natives-tanium...

I found that to be silly...

WTF calls an element cant-get-it-tanium...

Just kind of killed the moment for me.
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Old 01-20-2010, 09:35 AM   #119 (permalink)
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SEQUEL SPOILER

The 12 minute sequel starts with the exiled humans returning to Pandora. A spectacular 4 minute orbital bombing campaign, followed by a 5 minute dialogue between two space debris miners complaining how their suits smell like sweaty feet every time to go out to mine parts of the now free floating ex-planet. Right before the credits the camera pans to a neighboring moon, and we see a half decompressed Navii corpse floating away into deep space. The end.

Moral of the story: Don’t fuck with humans… especially the greedy ones.
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Is there a way to see it in terms of actual inflation of the dollar, or is it only available by calculating ticket prices?

I'd like to see rank by number of tickets sold and rank by money made, as seeing the ticket price comparisons when the experience isn't really comparable doesn't do much for me. I wouldn't pay but maybe $2 a ticket if I was forced to see a film in a 30's era theater(maybe less), but I would pay $10 for surround sound, air conditioning, digital projectors and stadium seating.
Careful Spooky -- If you start using tickets sold, someone here will want to adjust it for urban population during the year the movie was made.

A better measure might be adjusting for availability of other options. When Gone With The Wind came out, wtf else was out there? In 1939 it was either watch GWTW, the Wizard of Oz (which few did, it was a dud in the box office), or listen to the Nazi's invading Poland over the shortwave. Choices in audio/visual entertainment are uncountable in todays world.
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