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Old 01-21-2010, 12:19 PM   #131 (permalink)
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If I was including the people who could not see the movie and basing it only on total world population, Avatar would need to sell straight up 2.68 times as many tickets and hit $13.5bil. But, inflation and populations changed at different rates, a lot of population growth happened in less developed countries, and the movie was released at very different times in different countries. Sure, it was released in 1939 in USA and 5 other countries, but it was released in 20 other countries spread out over 19 years, not hitting Denmark until 1958.

During that first release worldwide, it was also re-released in the USA twice in '42 and '47 whiel tickets doubled in price. No movie could do that today. Once VCRs became common, first release was your only theater run. So if we want to adjust for every real factor that affects movie ticket sales, Avatar could actually be ahead, but I don't feel like developing a formula for that.
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Old 01-21-2010, 12:32 PM   #132 (permalink)
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If I was including the people who could not see the movie and basing it only on total world population, Avatar would need to sell straight up 2.68 times as many tickets and hit $13.5bil. But, inflation and populations changed at different rates, a lot of population growth happened in less developed countries, and the movie was released at very different times in different countries. Sure, it was released in 1939 in USA and 5 other countries, but it was released in 20 other countries spread out over 19 years, not hitting Denmark until 1958.

During that first release worldwide, it was also re-released in the USA twice in '42 and '47 whiel tickets doubled in price. No movie could do that today. Once VCRs became common, first release was your only theater run. So if we want to adjust for every real factor that affects movie ticket sales, Avatar could actually be ahead, but I don't feel like developing a formula for that.
Right. You just made my point. Basing it on population differences is ridiculous.
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Old 01-21-2010, 02:56 PM   #133 (permalink)
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If I was including the people who could not see the movie and basing it only on total world population, Avatar would need to sell straight up 2.68 times as many tickets and hit $13.5bil. But, inflation and populations changed at different rates, a lot of population growth happened in less developed countries, and the movie was released at very different times in different countries. Sure, it was released in 1939 in USA and 5 other countries, but it was released in 20 other countries spread out over 19 years, not hitting Denmark until 1958.

During that first release worldwide, it was also re-released in the USA twice in '42 and '47 while tickets doubled in price. No movie could do that today. Once VCRs became common, first release was your only theater run. So if we want to adjust for every real factor that affects movie ticket sales, Avatar could actually be ahead, but I don't feel like developing a formula for that.
Yeah, it's an inexact science and you can only take it so far before it gets too convoluted to have much meaning. I think the best way, with the smallest variables, to compare is to take the adjusted domestic (because culture worldwide has changed more than culture within the US and because boxofficemojo only has adjusted domestic numbers, not adjusted worldwide), which is based directly on numbers of tickets sold and includes factors like the difference in price across different release dates.

To factor in population you can divide that number by the population in the film's release year and that gives you an idea of the percentage of the population that saw the film. There are still variables within that obviously but I think those variables are reasonably small enough to still read the data as meaningful. And really it's the proportion of the population which saw the film that gives you the best idea of the movie's cultural impact.
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Old 02-01-2010, 07:46 AM   #134 (permalink)
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Here's the infamous Phantom Menace eviscerator's dissection of Avatar...



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Old 04-01-2010, 11:30 PM   #135 (permalink)
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Old 04-02-2010, 02:55 AM   #136 (permalink)
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"I see blue people."

Hee hee hee

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Old 04-04-2010, 03:40 PM   #137 (permalink)
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Old 04-06-2010, 12:30 AM   #138 (permalink)
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The movie lost me when they first turned into Navi's. They looked stupid to me, so I stopped watching.
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Old 04-06-2010, 01:18 AM   #139 (permalink)
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The movie lost me when they first turned into Navi's. They looked stupid to me, so I stopped watching.
Yeah, I did the same thing when Neo woke up in the "real world" in the Matrix. I don't need to see 2 hours of Keeanu Reeves playing a Xena Warrior Princess video game on the big screen, gaaaaaaay!!!!
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Old 04-06-2010, 09:53 AM   #140 (permalink)
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Yikes.

Do you really need to defend Avatar?

I like The Dark Knight, shit all over that, and see if I care (I didn't make it). I'll still watch it once a week like I normally do. (I didn't make The Dark Knight)
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