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Old 02-22-2009, 09:26 AM   #77 (permalink)
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I had to take a break 30 minutes in. Matt's self-absorbed yelling was making me want to riot.

First off ... I think that Matt thinks the Nazi's are better because he simply understands them better. I don't mean he loves them. I mean that he believes he could have a semi-civilized conversation with them and actually agree on a few artistic points. He doesn't have the same feeling about Arab extremists, therefore he deems them worse.

Traditionally, we tend to think of crimes that involve the most premeditation as being the most ruthless and cold-blooded.

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Clearly Nazis are the worst. I think it takes more evil to systmatically destroy a race.
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Arabs are worse...

I appreciate calculated efficiency.
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Yeah but they aren't as organized IMO. Therefore they are more bark than bite.
You guys make the case for premeditation very well. Arabs are scarier because we can't reason with their religious extremism, but Nazi's are more consistently and cold-blooded in their evil. Soap hockey, next.



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You cannot take a movie and redo it shot for shot without permission.
End of fucking story. People in the States who do remakes of Japanese horror need to get RIGHTS.

It does matter if you steal the melody, it was enough to sue Vanilla Ice for stealing the fucking bass line of Under Pressure.

He was SUED and he LOST.

The Coldplay song not only sounds exactly the same but it even puts weight in the exact same places.

The part in the Satriani song appears twice in the song, it's the HOOK.
Who can say Coldplay didn't know the song existed? When I listen to the song by Coldplay it doesn't even FEEL like a Coldplay song, it really doesn't.

Listen to Coldplay's other works and it this sounds like a completely different band.
Matt on music sampling and creative rights ...

Find me a serious rock guitar player who has never heard of Joe Satriani. I feel like if Coldplay is going to claim ignorance the first thing that should happen is that someone should check to see if they really play their own goddamn instruments.

Of course Matt thinks an homage' is fine. It is, as long as it's an homage'. When you do an homage' appropriately, you call attention to the predecessor's work and are essentially saying that "This guy was great and influenced me." In so doing you pay respect and draw attention to the earlier work. If Coldplay had done an upfront homage' then Satriani could possibly expect that some newer listener would discover his music and he could derive new listeners that way.

Suggesting that stealing a melody is fine because "everybody does it" is, frankly, morally bankrupt. Good job, Matt.
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