3229: Honestly w/ David Feldman
 

Fake marriages and fake divorces; dating and new love; the KFC proposal; Tough Guys for Trump; Bernie Bros

Guest:
David Feldman
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I’m surprised y’all didn’t resort to water-boarding him for personal details. You guys did great with what you had.

Only a few minutes into the episode and I love this guy. A non-aggressive funny version of the Gootz with a bunch of non informational stories. That’s supposed to be a compliment.

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I don't think we have to wait for Last Week to know how frustrated you guys were. I can't fathom listening to him for another minute let alone 6 hours...

There were so many times where it felt like we were going to get an answer to a question then BAM - GOTCHA! I honestly can't remember him from the other two episodes he was on but I think I would've remembered being this annoyed with a guest.

Well done on keeping the show interesting and moving while dealing with that.

The Gootz's first episode was an easier listen

This fucking guy.

"Okay, honestly? Something something women something something."

i’ve had Valentine’s decorations up for over a month; lace paper doilies, window stickers, heart shaped door hangers. this way, we call each other Valentine a lot like sweet dummies, Bear can get me little things over a few weeks, and we can mindfully do lots of sweet thoughtful things for each other rather than putting pressure on a Big Day— it’s a full season. got my card already and everything! it’s dinosaur themed.

For the meat industry they raise both male and female chicken. They taste pretty much the same when they are killed young as meat birds are so it doesn't matter.

For the egg industry clearly only females are needed and the males are killed in a variety of gruesome ways immediately after hatching. Because the egg breed males are #useless and wouldn't grow into sellable meat.
Oh the joys of humans being assholes to animals.

There was a court case in Germany last year trying to make that practice illegal but it was shut down, they are looking into ways to determine sex before hatching to avoid that problem but the methods are apparently not widely (aka cheaply) available yet.

All of this reminds me of a past episode where Chemda and Hennessy tried to figure out whether chicken eggs are abortions.

2020 KATGuh Nominee - Least likely to be invited back..
 

...goes to David Feldman
Out of the 3,000+ shows, this is one of the few that I have considered turning off. I'm only about 25 minutes in and had to stop for work. I was never so happy to arrive at the office.

I loved and hated this guy at the same time. He was great at giving nothing but keeping the conversation going. He answered every question with a question or an absurd joke. I see why he's been married so much. By the time his wives started asking questions he probably had to file for divorce rather than answer.

Omg - I was trying to figure out what annoyed me so much about this episode and it's this

Especially at the end when he tried to pretend he was being willfully secretive because of his family. What a bunch of bullshit.

Katguh nomination for worst guest (yes I know you don't do this anymore so I won't pollute the nominations thread)

Yeah and his Bernie-Bro bullshit at the end was perfectly vague. They asked him about misogyny and he ended up giving a stump speech on Bernie. Sigh. Keith and Chemda did such a great job bouncing off the nothing he was giving them.

This guy is a perfect example of why Bernie Bros are annoying. So strident, Bernie is a god and everyone else sucks, all we need to do is put him in charge and they’ll be a revolution. The black and white attitude is so annoying, particularly when Sanders isn’t a Democrat and hasn’t accomplished anything because he won’t work with anybody.

The best part was how he was SHOCKED Chemda would support Bernie after doing all that talk about how Bernie was the only choice that would count. LOL

I’m halfway through and considering turning this off because this guest is the worst. Give me a Marina Franklin any day over this. We need to bring back the worst guest category.

Unpopular opinion of the day:

Why would he be shocked?
Keith told us for a decade that voting is stupid and Chemda proudly and regularly tells us that she doesn't follow the news unless it's absolutely relevant for the show.
That's what got Trump elected last time, that's what will make people on the democratic side not vote because somehow their fav didn't get the nomination.

He'd have to actually be listening to her to realize she liked Bernie. She was trying to get out that Bernie isn't funny but all he heard was the dismissal. His Bernie Bro or Old Man powers activated and he had to go on the offensive and get her to explain and defend her clearly inferior choice,


and some of the jokes just weren't funny! When he repeated the "Misogyny is bad but women are annoying, LOL" joke for the second time I really just wanted to push him over a waterfall

It didn’t seem like he was a regular listener of the show who knew all that though. He seemed like he was shocked only because Chemda is a woman and she still somehow supports Bernie. Didn’t seem nearly that deep to me. But it was ironic because he had just spent all that time making word salad to avoid the the claims of misogyny among Bernie supporters.

Sure

but I'd like to point out that 'men are trash duuuhhh so this guest doesn't know any better' doesn't mean me (hi I'm female) should not feel free to mention other points that annoy me

Understood.

Please allow me to help your crack research team with the terminology question.

The males are called roosters. Also cocks, but that's not a common term except among 5th grade boys.

Females are called hens. (Young hens less than a year old are sometimes called pullets.)

Collectively, they are chickens.

Just in case I need to be clear.

I don't have any memory of you being an asshole on the forums, I'm quite sure you are a perfectly good guy.
Hugs!

No clarification needed but I still appreciate it. Hugs back at you!

the last straw for me with David was after Keith begs him for a real answer for the 3rd time he's like "hahaha There's nothing there. If only you knew how hollow and empty I really am!"

SO FUCKING TELL HIM HOW EMPTY YOU ARE!
I can't stand when people shit on themselves and use self pity in order to excuse horrible behavior. Being a shithead husk of a person doesn't excuse not answering people's questions. Neither does a lack of self confidence. If you don't want to talk about your kids or girlfriend talk about something else, don't do a shmucky stand up routine.

This guy suuuuuucks. Take him back to the Catskills.

Thanks to K&C for making this listenable.

You know when the show racks up this many comments in less than 24 hours it's gonna be a good one...

I've been following this election way too close and if this guy says anything bad about Bernie in this episode it's gonna spike my blood pressure (only half kidding)

Fuck this guy. Caring about the role of racism and sexism in our society is not "identity politics"

Watched live on Twitch - tried to listen to it again and it was horrible. Couldn't make it past 5 minutes. It was painful.

seems to be only white men spout 'identity politics' when people don't agree with them

Big Pharma, yada yada yada

I know I'm wrong but I love how frustrating he was.

I guess his joke answers didn't bug me like they bugged everyone else because I didn't give a shit about the real answers, and once it became clear he was on to play a game I had fun with that game.

I come to KATG for the comedy and he brought plenty.

(Sorry this is verbose, the TLDR is bolded :) )

Exactly. David was SO close to making some good observations. Chemda was really guiding him well, but he made assumptions about her questions and threw things off. Therein lies the #1 problem with Bernie Bros, they get worked up and make assumptions about why people support others. Identity politics are often their go-to attack (you aren't looking at the issues, you just want a woman / gay!). The polarizing candidates especially seem to have immature and extremist fans who are assholes on the internet. I suspect that there might be more fervor coming from Bernie bros because it’s incredibly frustrating to have evidence about something and not know how to change minds. It takes maturity to step back and know when an argument is not worth it. Bernie bros may be right about a lot of things, but they are angry, often misogynist (but don’t realize it), emotionally unintelligent, poor communicators who don't know when or how to engage on the internet. Bernie Bros can be as rabid as trump trolls. I might be more irritated by them than people who disagree politically, because they are like the players acting crazy and screwing things up for the whole team.

I say this as an avid Bernie supporter. Universal healthcare is an incredibly important issue to me, and the lack of it has massively influenced my life and that of loved ones over the past few years. I fully agree that Warren, and Mayo Pete especially, are full of shit. But you can’t come at people with that. Their campaigns have been massively misleading, their plans are, in my opinion and the studies I’ve read, less likely to solve the problems that people have wanted changed since before Trump. I am similarly upset when I see unsubstantiated arguments for other candidates online, and people falling for messaging without looking for backup information, and aligning with candidates who don’t actually have their best interests in mind. However, I know that 99.9% of minds are not changed from internet “discussions.” It’s just not worth engaging unless someone is open for it.

Yes! His opponents keep pushing how medicare for all can’t be done. Many Americans have eaten up propaganda about the “negatives” of universal healthcare in, you know, every other industrialized nation. I’ve had a little experience with European healthcare, and I literally cried with joy about how easy everything was compared to care at home. People are scared of losing “choice” over insurance plans, when the truth is, we don’t have much choice at all. Our employers choose our insurance providers. We choose the level of coverage, but I don’t know a single person who LIKES their insurance plan. I’ve been on one of the best plans in the nation, and there was still expensive BS involved. It can’t be done without massive change in our for-profit insurance system. They keep asking how we can afford it, when it would be less costly. Jobs will shift, not be lost. But apparently we can afford endless wars, corporate bailouts, and our F-35 jet program (want to get angry about governmental waste? Look that trillion-dollar shit up).

This is why im glad their are forums cause i wasnt sure if this was just me or not. Cause their are only a handful of shows/guests that made me turn off the show in the 13 yrs ive been listening, and 15 min in i was like the hell with this dude keeps trying to force his old school corny jokes in vs letting it happen naturally. Also he doesnt understand the show is more an organic conversation as opposed to a set up punchline setup punch line in rapid succession. It completely ruined the rhythm of the show to the point i was like is this what keiths dad's book is like :confused:

I absolutely love David Feldman on KATG. Can’t wait for his upcoming DFS episode with KATG as guests. He’s also great when he shows up on political podcasts and does his centrist faux Bernie bro satire. It’s so good (if you’re knee deep in political news anyway).

Can’t wait for his next appearance now that he’s learned how to work his phone to call 😁

Definitely sounded like K&C were struggling with him but at the same time it sounded like Keith was also having fun with his non-responses/jokes.

That’s not his point. He saying don’t vote because of identity politics. If you’re a person of color don’t automatically vote for a person of color. If you’re a woman, don’t automatically vote for a woman.

Look at their policies first and if the policies align with your ideals, then vote for that candidate, regardless of their gender, race, or sexual orientation.

I fucking loved this episode...
 

Yes, David clearly has his schtick....

But Keith and Chemda's responses, reactions, and immediately calling him on it, in the most hilarious ways are a tour-de-force. If anyone doubts that Keith Malley is a massive comic talent, listen to the gold he pulls out of what could have been a complete shitshow with this guy. He's even cracking David up calling him on his 'act'. Chemda being 100% in on it is aces. Few sounds in the world are better than Chemda's mirthful laugh. (Maybe Andrea screaming at anything for any reason).

This one goes into the repeat listen box for me.