[Cretaceous Bob]

Originally Posted by Junkenstein

He posted the new Acacia strain album which is as far as cookie cutter metalcore as you can get. The Sons Of aurelius record is also more close to Techno-Death stuff like Cyptopsy or Necrophagist (with the main difference being the vocals).

I'm not saying you have to like that (cause you wont) or you have to agree (cause you wont) or even argue at a civil level (cause you wont. you do it on other issues, but not on this one). But dont stick stuff that isnt core in the core label.

That's fair, and I did hear those differences. But you have to cut very close to see those differences. My point is he likes a very specific type of music and does not deviate from it. There's a reason there's a lot of metalcore fan bleedover to the tech-death scene: they're very similar. Anybody who's been to a tech-death show and to a metalcore show knows that they're very good at pulling similar crowds. Or, let me put it another way: can you honestly say that Necrophagist-esque tech-death is a far cry from metalcore?

Also, I'd like to note I treat each argument according to the person. When someone is on a hair trigger ready to spit out faggot, you can rest assured I am already familiar with that person's personality and do not respect them enough to talk to them civilly.

Originally Posted by Junkenstein

I ì'll make you an example. One of my favourite albums of the later onths is Castevet's Mounds Of Ash.

It has been labeled as Post-Black but it's far more innovative than that.

Another good band on Profound Lore has made a new album, Yakuza:


Outstanding stuff, that some less smart people love to label Post-Metal and yet covers all genres and none.

Hate ahead, if you have to. But there's different shades to stuff.

I absolutely agree that there is more to things than a simple genre label. Most bands use a blend, and many subgenres themselves are blends. But you're clearly arguing around something: the fact that serial x has a very limited taste and does not have an appreciation for the genre of metal.

You're trying to cut a semantic line because that's what's required to make your point. You have to define things as "shades" because that's the granularity required to see the differences, as opposed to stark contrasts that are normally present in major metal subgenres.

Originally Posted by serial_x

And while I have enough free time to play your game, explain to me how KsE is similar to Bleed From Within or how All That Remains is similar to Sons Of Aurelius.

I'm sure I'll read your reply and give a fuck..

Ha, seriously? You realized that your breadth of musical taste is not as clearly distinct as mine, so rather than compare your shit to mine as I did, you compare yourself to... yourself.

My problem is as it has ever been: go make a metalcore thread. You don't like metal as a genre. You like metalcore.

Originally Posted by serial_x

Dude, I like what I like.. why does it offend you so fucking much? How does MY taste in music affect YOUR life?

You're the one being butthurt. I stated an accurate fact and you got defensive. I don't know why you have so much of a problem with me calling you what you are. I stated truth, and then you called me a faggot. I guess that's because you can't link to stark differences in shit you like. So you call me a faggot.

And maybe there's my problem, isn't it? That a fan of a very specific set of music not only can't expand his taste, but spits out dumb shit like "purist faggot". I don't want you representing metalheads. Go make a metalcore thread and be as unwittingly ironic as you like.

Surely you can see what I'm saying Junkenstein. Somebody who views people who like the genre of metal as purist faggots is not somebody I count among my people or would want counted among my people. The idea that the rest of the genre has merit is so inconceivable to him that he is forced to reason to himself that I have manufactured my appreciation of it arbitrarily.