3520: Vessel for Love w/ Ashley Gavin

[Keith]

Ashley Gavin joins KATG to help discuss Foo Fighters’ Taylor Hawkins’ drug overdose, Dolly Parton being up for a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction whether she likes it or not, and the 2022 Academy Awards featuring The Slap with Will Smith and Chris Rock. It truly is the most wonderful time of the year.

Guest:
Ashley Gavin



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[Keith]

Pleeeeeaaaasssseeee tell me your thoughts if you picked Team Will.

The standing up for someone? A joke about a disease was too much?

PLEEEAAASSE tell me?

[thirteen]

Will Smith made it about him but it's really about Jada.
No one else's opinion matters.

It's weird how many people are making it about themselves.

[Hera Again]

Originally Posted by Keith

Pleeeeeaaaasssseeee tell me your thoughts if you picked Team Will.

The standing up for someone? A joke about a disease was too much?

PLEEEAAASSE tell me?

It was me - maybe the only vote for Will. I'm listening to Rod discuss this on TBGWT and I agree with him -- there's just too much pearl-clutching about this.

[Keith]

Hm. I heard that show. We somehow heard different things.

[Hera Again]

Originally Posted by Keith

Hm. I heard that show. We somehow heard different things.

Yeah, he did touch on a lot of things. But also the back story about Chris and Jada, Will's having witnessed his mother being abused, Etc. I think there is room for not going so hard on Will. And also, pearl-clutching. Honestly this is not the worst example of 'violence' ever seen. It was one guy losing control and being remorseful after.

[Sparrow]

bullshit. you’re really minimizing this “adult” open palm smacking a colleague in front of a room of all their other colleagues during a live broadcast. he damn well knew better and, frankly, you should, too.

laying your hands on someone like that is assault. full stop.

[Bucho]

What joke about a disease?

It was clearly a joke about Jada "I was just in Matrix 4, which, like GI Jane, laid a huge turd at the box office" Pinkett-Smith's career.

She's hot AF with the buzzcut. There's no joke there. The idea it was a shot at her looks or "disease" or whatever is goofy AF.

[thirteen]

Originally Posted by Bucho

She's hot AF with the buzzcut.

Men keep repeating this as if their opinion is universal or the only one that matters. People are usually very hard on themselves, especially in an industry where looks are everything.

Maybe she was bothered by the comment. That's OK. It obviously doesn't mean she or someone else should resort to violence. But she's allowed to not be happy about her condition and then not be happy about the joke (whatever it was implying). Comments about her looks are dismissive.

[nordcharonmir]

Originally Posted by Hera Again

Yeah, he did touch on a lot of things. But also the back story about Chris and Jada, Will's having witnessed his mother being abused, Etc. I think there is room for not going so hard on Will. And also, pearl-clutching. Honestly this is not the worst example of 'violence' ever seen. It was one guy losing control and being remorseful after.

You are wrong.

Originally Posted by Sparrow

bullshit. you’re really minimizing this “adult” open palm smacking a colleague in front of a room of all their other colleagues during a live broadcast. he damn well knew better and, frankly, you should, too.

laying your hands on someone like that is assault. full stop.

Sparrow is exactly right.

Originally Posted by Hera Again

Frankly, I'm entitled to my opinion. The situation is nuanced. I'm just tired of the judgmental, holier-than-thou vibe about this.

You are entitled to your opinion but it is wrong and people are entitled to tell you that it is wrong.

Originally Posted by thirteen

Men keep repeating this as if their opinion is universal or the only one that matters. People are usually very hard on themselves, especially in an industry where looks are everything.

Maybe she was bothered by the comment. That's OK. It obviously doesn't mean she or someone else should resort to violence. But she's allowed to not be happy about her condition and then not be happy about the joke (whatever it was implying). Comments about her looks are dismissive.

They are at a roast for all intents and purposes...things will be said about appearance. If you can't handle a silly joke about how you look stay home forever.




Watching the clip made me feel really bad for Will Smith because he has to be in a seriously damaged and distressed position to be so incredibly mentally weak about his wife. This is an extreme case of little baby faggotry at work. He couldn't even hear a joke at a roast event that made his wife slightly uncomfortable for a second without lashing out and assaulting Chris Rock with a sucker slap then turning his back and retreating to his seat to yell shit. He threw a shitty disguised slap at a much smaller comedian telling jokes with his hands firmly placed behind his back. This event just smacks of the most insecure little bitch in a room full of insecure little bitches throwing a tantrum.

That in no way pardons his behavior, he should still be accountable and liable for his actions and he was 100% wrong!

I hope Jada is fucking all of Will's friends...oh wait we already know that she is and some of his enemies and pretty much anything that walks past, I wonder where such insecurity about his wife comes from?

Mad props to Chris Rock for taking that finger slap and letting it slide off him like water on a duck's back while Willie had to cry about it and be rubbed in consolation by his peers. A lesser man with the mic after regaining composure would have ripped Will Smith and his wife's weird fucking life choices a new ass hole but Chris is a better man than most.

As a fun thought experiment I wonder if little baby Willie woulda attacked a man that wasn't an easy target, say like Brendan Schaub.