Internet = Hate?
 

Alright, so I've only been *really* on these forums for a couple days, but I've been listening to the show for like 5 months or so. I'm also no stranger to the internet.

I want to discuss why the Internet, and forums more specifically, breed such hate between users.

My theory is that everyone hates everyone, but lacks the balls to do anything about it unless they're safe behind their keyboard.

Discuss?

in general, or specific to these forums?

i dont hate anyone

/shrug

it's because people that post are idiots and socially retarded. they should be excised from society and sent to oklahoma.

well, in general, although this thread was sparked by certain people in here just calling each other pedophiles for no reason.

and i don't mean everyone. In fact, there are probably only a few, but they stick out like a sore thumb. It's funny, and I wouldn't change it, but at the same time I feel sorry for people who seem to get such satisfaction out of flaming people they've never even met.

neat thread.

surely it goes without saying that anonymity + audience = trollish behavior

in the case of these forums specifically, some people (like me) are going to be put off by the obscenely sycophantic fascination that people have with Keith and Chemda and their ilk, and at times will respond in kind.

additionally, i generally have a 2 to 3 year shelf life in any web community i belong to, after which time i become bitter and cranky toward my fellow forum posters. there are like, maybe five of you that i have any amount of respect for.

also, and i've had this conversation with a few of you before, but sorry: the fact of the matter is that probably 80% of you are sad, socially maladjusted, mouthbreathing nerds. and i'm not. i saw it with my own eyes when i came to the city for Keith's stand-up in april (before anyone accuses me of throwing stones in a glass house, i wouldn't have been in town to begin with had i not already made plans early on this year to stay with friends of mine that live in Brooklyn all that week)

so, you know. have fun at the next meet-up i guess. i'll be here, with my wonderful girlfriend and the absolute best friends any person could ever hope to have.

I think that it spawns candor more than hate (although the line between the two is easily blurred). I have this theory (and I'd be interested to hear Bebe's thoughts on it) that the internet and forums like this are the latest incarnation of semi-anonymous nongeo specific social interaction.

The easiest previous incarnation to point to is the CB radio operators in the 1970's and 80's. There was an initial buy in of equipment and time, but after that you could start off being whomever you wanted to be, create a handle and a persona.

Over time, your true personality or the cracks in your "cover" tended to become apparent. You could also wear out your welcome and be shunned, necessitating the reset of your persona and having to reestablish your credibility within the community. Or you could be yourself, enjoy yourself and flourish within the rules of the community.

what if your, or anyone else's particular 'self', happens to be a douchebag? internet or otherwise?

Weren't you the one who got drunk and made an ass out of himself? At least those are the stories I've been told.

Well, that's not just these forums. 80% of society are sad and misguided, internet or no.

As for the obscentity, I have no problem with obscenity. I mean, it comes with the territory. Listen to an obscene podcast, and you're going to have fans being obscene.

Saying "fuck" every other fuckin' word, and calling someone a child-rapist are two different things. But I digress. I really do enjoy seeing flamewars, and I'll join in myself. It's funny; mostly because these people don't know each other. sully_04 couldn't possibly know if you have sex with children, but he says it anyway. Makes me laugh.

totally! it was great fun. i made out with like 3 or 4 different girls, got scolded by chemda for being an asshole, got chased down avenue A by keith. lost my bookbag, which mcnally helped me find. etc.

tell you what. print out a copy of your post and mail it to April 2008, which was when i last gave a shit about what you or anybody else on here thought about my drunken antics

Then, eventually, it will come out. Very few people can actually be a "fake" person for any length of time. Some might even relish the ability to be an unrestricted douchebag without having to worry about being punched in the mouth.

That's a really good analogy, Mo!

I was kind of off-put (aka, thought you were a douche) for your CANADIAN comment in the dancing kids thread, but I apologize. (Is there some sort of joke about CANADA being written in caps, that I'm not getting? I've only been listening since April, and I'm catching up from the beginning before listening to current shows, so I've probably missed something.)

that's not what i meant. i was leaning more toward people's obsession and deference to K&C's internet microcelebrity status

Ack! Don't send them here! We have enough social retards as it is.

Example: Oklahoma Sooners fans.

C'mon now.

Mississippi...send them to Mississippi.

There is a trend in some parts of the US to use "Canadian" as a substitute word for "black," thus absolving the commentator from racist accusations. Because of the ethnicity of the video subjects, I was trying to make a funny. Hence, "you're CANADIAN, not Canadian" or however I said it. The joke flopped like a fish, caught and left on a Canadian ice floe to die. :(


;)

zip code?

like take typ here. I'm pretty sure he doesn't like me. I forget why but i'm sure he has good reason.
we are pack animals. in the pack there are leaders. you comply or you don't eat. makes for a happy clan.
we are programmed to be suspicious more than we are to be compassionate. and I can't wait for Cebacious Bob to claw his way into this thread cuz he fucking hates the shit outa me.

FLA if I remember correctly. Far from OKL.

Hahaha ok, I get the joke now. It didn't completely flop. I really did LOL after I understood being Canadian with being black. I'll have to let my fellow Canadians know about this.

I think some of it is anonimity but the large majority is a total lack of repercussion of one's actions. When you're mocking someone from across the world who doesn't even know your real name, there's not much chance you'll get bopped on the nose for it. If you like putting people down to bring yourself up the internet is a perfect place for that, especially for pussies that are to scared to do it in real life.

Hahaha, so going back to what I said about not having any balls.

In the spirit of the thread, I thought I'd post this little number:

Player Hater's Ball

i het u dum slut

LOL UR DOIN IT RITE

I met you. You're a freak and a weirdo, and it has nothing to do with you being drunk.

Is this guy related to Nick Whats-his-name? He keeps reaffirming that he's got a girlfriend, and that's what makes him normal.

And, he looks like the nerdy kid who was gonna kill himself in The Breakfast Club.

Don't kill yourself, Typ. That would probably suck.

Edit: Starr! Nick Starr.

Typ, have you considered that you may be a flaming homo?

Hey, Oklahoma isn't so bad we.....nevermind.:(

Yeah, this is fun and all. But, if you're in a place in your life where you find yourself surrounded by 80% sad and misguided, you should perhaps consider a personal rebuild and seek higher ground.You can do better. I think that most of us live very packeted lives with a relative small body-count that we actually have to interact with on a daily basis. Personally, not counting the robots, I go MONTHS dealing with the same 12 or so people. And, out of those, there are only 1 or 2 that i wouldn't have a beer with.

We clash here, because in our little worlds we're the funniest, smartest, coolest people we know. Throw all those 'est's into one room together and no doubt someone's gonna his itty bitty illegal immigrant weenie laughed at, or his monster west Texas cock oggled at. Meh, it's not personal. Right?

And, as far as Sully goes, he DOES know you like to fuck boys. Boy-fucker.

LOL!!

Well, I agree with you of course :)

People think of each other as characters here rather than as people. Now that I have met a number of people from the forums in person, I think differently about them.

Oh Paste! I thought you were done with that :o

Great minds, we haz dem ...

Hahahaha and the hate continues.

First off. Jesus, I don't hang around with everyone I come in contact with. I work with idiots, I see idiots at the mall, the grocery store, in their cars... Hopelessly chasing around children that they aren't fit to take care of.... But you know what? I don't hang out with them. I don't have beers with them.

Along the same lines as yourself, yeah, 12 is probably a reasonable estimate of how many people I regularly hang around. I can't think of one that I wouldn't have a beer with. If I wouldn't have a beer with them, I wouldn't hang out with them the rest of the time.

And you're right, it's not personal. How could it possibly be personal. For the most part, people here don't know each other personally.

Oh, and typicalllistener is the boy-fucker, not me. Those little shits don't know what the hell they're doing in the sack. I'd be more likely to get with your mom, at least she knows what to do with a cock when she sees one. At least, I'd hope so, or how did YOU get here?

rape?

Touche.

I apologize to anyone who I offended by calling their mom a whore, if she was really just raped.

My mom was raped at 14. I was born when she was 15.

LOLZ.. i'm kidding... She was whore at 14.

There is no room in this forum for apologies. Think BEFORE you hit submit. Then stand.

Boy-fucker.

Hmm... and how long ago was this? I just wanna see if I know her. Or maybe my dad does.

Well, since your mom wasn't raped, clearly my apology is no longer needed, and I take it back!

the only time we were around one another that week was while i was pickled at NGE's after the stand-up. wouldn't say that gives you much material with which to judge my character as a person. nice try though

rats, i had the knife in my hand and everything.

the internet doesn't like me! /sob

i wonder if the SNA people will think i am an ok person. only then will everything be alright.

Add "nice try though" to the list that includes, "Yeah, right," "Actually," and, "You wish."

I guess I'm wrong then. I'm sure you're totally different and the best.