Rant(official ranting thread)

[Bebe]

Originally Posted by bonscott1

point taken

i'm just about that age when i'm getting a job finally, and i don't believe in the government taking a cut of the money earned by all of us

i believe that when you retire, you should have saved up money for the rest of your life, not the government taking money and giving a small portion back to you when you acctually do need it

If you lived in a democracy with an honest government, maybe you would feel different about this.

Technically, the government is the representative of the people, so the government is you. If you don't like what your government does, you have no-one but yourself to blame. You put them there.

You know what annoys me...people who rant about the government like it is some external thing that has nothing to do with them. Voter turn-out in my country: 90%. Voter turn-out in the US: somewhere around 50%.

Are you just to beaten down to care? VOTE dummies.

\end of rant

[brotherdarkness]

Originally Posted by Bebe

If you lived in a democracy with an honest government, maybe you would feel different about this.

Technically, the government is the representative of the people, so the government is you. If you don't like what your government does, you have no-one but yourself to blame. You put them there.

You know what annoys me...people who rant about the government like it is some external thing that has nothing to do with them. Voter turn-out in my country: 90%. Voter turn-out in the US: somewhere around 50%.

Are you just to beaten down to care? VOTE dummies.

\end of rant

I actually DO vote, so fie on you.

[Bebe]

Originally Posted by brotherdarkness

I actually DO vote, so fie on you.

So clearly I wasn't talking to you then dummy.

Democracy only works properly if everyone votes. Otherwise it is not really a democracy. Especially when it is the poor/black/hispanic people not voting...

[bonscott1]

Originally Posted by Bebe

If you lived in a democracy with an honest government, maybe you would feel different about this.

Technically, the government is the representative of the people, so the government is you. If you don't like what your government does, you have no-one but yourself to blame. You put them there.

You know what annoys me...people who rant about the government like it is some external thing that has nothing to do with them. Voter turn-out in my country: 90%. Voter turn-out in the US: somewhere around 50%.

Are you just to beaten down to care? VOTE dummies.

\end of rant

i can't wait 'till i'm old enough to vote

[Bebe]

Originally Posted by bonscott1

i can't wait 'till i'm old enough to vote

Awesome! I am glad you feel that way. Is the general feeling amongst youth of today? The ones you know, anyway?

[Bebe]

Originally Posted by the1thepwnly

my first chance to vote will be in the '08 election and im going to.

and bebe it isnt that the voters are few in numbers its the lack of knowledge they possess. they are hunched over, cousin wedding, incompetant, knuckle draggers who don't know any better. they need to pay more attention to the news and current topics and the candidates views

I've been thinking about this. I agree that the ability of the people to engage in public discourse has been diminished, which has led to less public debate of issues. My experience of this forum is that most debates degenerate quickly into polemics about the evils of the left or right, rather than being about the issues and people's core values.

But I do think 50% voter turn-out is pretty poor. I think people are increasingly disconnected from politicians and their policies and actions. We need to remember that they are our servants, and that they are spending our money, and we have a right to make them accountable. Your constitution is founded on the belief that the rights of the state should not ride rough-shod over the rights of the people.

Phew, I feel much better.

[bonscott1]

Originally Posted by Bebe

Awesome! I am glad you feel that way. Is the general feeling amongst youth of today? The ones you know, anyway?

the youth today doesn't care about the things that will directly affect them, and i don't understand that, how they could be so ignorant towards their future life

[rognbiz]

most kids dont realize the effect that their vote has. they just think that its pointless and that their vote wont matter.

[MyOhMy]

Originally Posted by bonscott1

the youth today doesn't care about the things that will directly affect them, and i don't understand that, how they could be so ignorant towards their future life

Because they have never lived without the things they have. They can't appreciate their life when they have never lived without their luxuries.

[bonscott1]

Originally Posted by rognbiz

most kids dont realize the effect that their vote has. they just think that its pointless and that their vote wont matter.

last time i checked, isn't the popular vote just about pointless?

i mean, it seems to be the electorial vote that decides the president, isn't it?