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View Poll Results: Whose side are you on re: animal fucking/eating?
Keith’s 14 46.67%
Chemda's 16 53.33%
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Old 04-15-2017, 09:24 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Jmsmittyroad View Post
I still want to eat my ethically raised and killed cheeseburger
What does that even mean? I'm not sure that there's an ethical way to have a cheesebuger
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Old 04-16-2017, 10:30 AM   #42 (permalink)
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gonna take keith's side on this

I'm ok with killing animal fuckers. the kinda person that's gonna go and fuck an animal isn't gonna give anything beneficial to society.
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Old 04-17-2017, 11:03 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Keith is 100% right on this one - but I get why Chemda does not understand his position.

Chemda thinks this is an issue of consent/suffering and animals don't consent to be fucked and they don't consent to be eaten.

So take a male dog, does it consent to being involved in bestiality? Absolutely.

It'll fuck your leg, it'll fuck you if you bend over and it'll fuck you remain stationary too long. If its initiating the sex then its probably consenting. Is it OK to have sex with a male dog - No. so it's not about consent (or even suffering).

(in Chemda's world fucking a happy dog would be OK but not eating an unhappy cow)

Its about our society - do we want some dog fucker walking around unpunished. The answer is no - whether this because of judeo/christian ethics, or a hangover from common law or links to paedophilia society does not want this.

Our society IS however ok with eating cows.

(Seventy years ago you could make the same argument about punishing homosexuality, so society isn't always right. But call me old fashioned, I can't abide a dog fucker)

If god didn't want us to eat cows he shouldn't have made them out of hamburger.
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Old 04-18-2017, 07:18 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by My Sweaty Balls View Post
...Its about our society - do we want some dog fucker walking around unpunished...
It’s good of you to make that explicit.
I’m the opposite, and I suspect it has something to do with how much one identifies with the local social authority.

I tend to view power with suspicion. If given the chance a dominant group will generally brutalise non-dominant groups, extracting resources, labour, and mates. For examples observe the treatment of ethnic minorities, sexual minorities, women, and children throughout approximately all of civilised human history.

It is only through long painstaking application of something like a golden rule (and the creation of enormous wealth) that we in Western society are even approaching the unprecedented state of implementing an advanced society that isn’t incredibly evil. That said, the state still brutalises non-violent drug users, reinforces unjust economic inequalities and harmful sexual mores, and prioritises the interests of capital over individuals.

Ultimately, I am a lot more worried about society unjustly punishing the innocent than I am excited by the opportunity to punish those I dislike. Would you say you hold the contrary value set?

EDIT: Which isn't an attempt to claim superiority. Enforced tribal conventions - for want of a better term - obviously offer survival and reproduction advantages and often solve problems better than would a reasoned approach.. I am just curious about what you would call said value.
Apologies if my language betrays distaste. It is for the negative effects of said instinct rather than its proponents.
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Old 04-20-2017, 12:02 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Keith's issue (if I got it right) is Animal fuckers who we allow to live will continue to rape animals and raping animals is animals is wrong. Chemda was saying all the shit we do to animals in order to ultimately kill and eat them is just as bad and that was paraphrased to "killing animals is bad."

But to Chemda's point, in order to get to the point where we kill them we first have to rape the farm animals. Modern farms forcibly impregnate their livestock because it is way more efficient than waiting for the animals to go into heat and start having sex. This process involves shoving a hand up their vag to turn their uteruses and them jamming a metal rod filled with semen up there. I could only find this sort of action for cows but that's still a lot of rape happening all the time.

(Behind the Myth: Happy Cows)

so i mean, I'm sure Keith wants to kill these farmers too but to the original question, no lets not kill all animal fuckers. Maybe chemical castration?
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Old 04-20-2017, 12:09 PM   #46 (permalink)
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I'm good with castration.

Careful though, I ate a hamburger today and I'd hate to have my balls cut off. It's a slippery slope...
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