2771: Sex Ed.

[Lanfear]

Originally Posted by Ubersketchy

Not that I disagree with most of what's being said here,but I'm surprised no one brought up Chemda's story from a few months back with the dancers?

If I recall correctly she invited them up to her hotel room and then waited in the bathroom for some amount of time so that she could pop out wearing nothing but her underwear and tell them "yeah lets bang later".

Not saying its equal to what this guy did, but there are some parallels, and nobody brought it up so now I will.

EDIT: typo

Ok thanks for bringing that up.
There is a huge difference in power in that situation vs what the guest talked about - do you see that?
I'm happy to discuss with you but if you don't understand that basic premise it's gonna be tricky.

[Ubersketchy]

Originally Posted by Lanfear

Ok thanks for bringing that up.
There is a huge difference in power in that situation vs what the guest talked about - do you see that?
I'm happy to discuss with you but if you don't understand that basic premise it's gonna be tricky.

I completely understand that there's a difference, what he did was creepy as fuck and he doesn't seem to understand why. Chemda told her story from a stance of "I did this really stupid thing and I understand why it was really stupid" so it seems like she's grown in the 20-odd years since that incident.

However, what I heard in Chemda's questioning of him was a sort of incredulity I wouldn't expect from someone who has, in the past, done a very similar thing towards a very similar goal. Chemda sounds like she has no concept of what could POSSIBLY been going through his head to EVER consider doing such a RIDICULOUS thing.

I just heard him say he came out of a bathroom naked to initiate sex and my immediate thought was "Chemda did that once! Bring that up! Compare and contrast the two situations! Learning moment!" but instead it just turned into grilling him as to what he was even thinking, like she couldn't relate at all.

TL;DR - Chemda did a similar thing with similar intentions 20 years ago (with an admittedly different power dynamic), and didn't even think to bring it up.

Addendum: Reading that back over, I wanted to make clear that I understand that the power dynamic was the main reason he's a big creep and Chemda less so. The fact that it sounds like this guy would do it again tomorrow if he was younger is just the cherry on top.

[The Girl]

Originally Posted by Ubersketchy

I completely understand that there's a difference, what he did was creepy as fuck and he doesn't seem to understand why. Chemda told her story from a stance of "I did this really stupid thing and I understand why it was really stupid" so it seems like she's grown in the 20-odd years since that incident.

However, what I heard in Chemda's questioning of him was a sort of incredulity I wouldn't expect from someone who has, in the past, done a very similar thing towards a very similar goal. Chemda sounds like she has no concept of what could POSSIBLY been going through his head to EVER consider doing such a RIDICULOUS thing.

I just heard him say he came out of a bathroom naked to initiate sex and my immediate thought was "Chemda did that once! Bring that up! Compare and contrast the two situations! Learning moment!" but instead it just turned into grilling him as to what he was even thinking, like she couldn't relate at all.

TL;DR - Chemda did a similar thing with similar intentions 20 years ago (with an admittedly different power dynamic), and didn't even think to bring it up.

Addendum: Reading that back over, I wanted to make clear that I understand that the power dynamic was the main reason he's a big creep and Chemda less so. The fact that it sounds like this guy would do it again tomorrow if he was younger is just the cherry on top.

I don’t understand you understanding the difference between my move and his and still asking the question “what’s the difference”.

As for me being confused by why would someone EVER, I was talking about using your naked body as a joke to evoke sex appeal. He answered it when he admitted he was nervous and didn’t know how to make a first move into sex/nudity.


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[alex_vincent]

Originally Posted by Lord of the Cock Rings

Kinda worried about Carmen. She lived with Pat Dixon for how long? and now moving in with this guy?

She's not good at picking men.

Pamela Anderson has better taste in men.

[Ubersketchy]

Originally Posted by The Girl

I don’t understand you understanding the difference between my move and his and still asking the question “what’s the difference”.

As for me being confused by why would someone EVER, I was talking about using your naked body as a joke to evoke sex appeal. He answered it when he admitted he was nervous and didn’t know how to make a first move into sex/nudity.


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I don't mean to ask what the difference is. To me, the two acts were similar but not equal. What you did was like, 5/10 wrong and what he did was 9/10 wrong. The situations surrounding the acts were different, but the actions and motivations of you both seem pretty alike to me. You both got horny and waited in a bathroom to spring out undressed to get sexytimes to start. All I was trying to point out is that I was waiting and anticipating you bringing that up in the show and it didn't happen. It left me feeling like a huge opportunity slipped past.

[The Girl]

Originally Posted by Ubersketchy

I don't mean to ask what the difference is. To me, the two acts were similar but not equal. What you did was like, 5/10 wrong and what he did was 9/10 wrong. The situations surrounding the acts were different, but the actions and motivations of you both seem pretty alike to me. You both got horny and waited in a bathroom to spring out undressed to get sexytimes to start. All I was trying to point out is that I was waiting and anticipating you bringing that up in the show and it didn't happen. It left me feeling like a huge opportunity slipped past.

I didn’t jump out nude. I was in my bra and undies in the bathroom. I kept the door cracked and one of them peaked in like I thought would happen. I came out clothed. We then hung out for a bit. No physical anything. After the show we did later that night, they were coming up to my room. That’s when we watched porn and had sex. They undressed me.

I see the similarities but the differences were strong enough to not compare.

There were two of them in my case, i was more subtle, I am female, history, etc.

Am I wrong?






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[Shanateemanatee]

Trying to compare what Chemda did to what these men did is like comparing calling a white man a cracker to calling a black man the n word.
They are so different the only way they can look similar is if you strip away all context in an attempt to be willfully ignorant.

[memecherry]

Originally Posted by The Girl

I didn’t jump out nude. I was in my bra and undies in the bathroom. I kept the door cracked and one of them peaked in like I thought would happen. I came out clothed. We then hung out for a bit. No physical anything. After the show we did later that night, they were coming up to my room. That’s when we watched porn and had sex. They undressed me.

I see the similarities but the differences were strong enough to not compare.

There were two of them in my case, i was more subtle, I am female, history, etc.

Am I wrong?






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EXACTLY!! CC: my comment earlier in the thread aka duh

[memecherry]

Originally Posted by Shanateemanatee

Trying to compare what Chemda did to what these men did is like comparing calling a white man a cracker to calling a black man the n word.
They are so different the only way they can look similar is if you strip away all context in an attempt to be willfully ignorant.

ditto