Boycott Target?

[marina]

Originally Posted by Alexandra

Please tell me how you've concluded that Obamacare will in fact increase individual empowerment, decrease government control and save money.

First, a mea culpa: I have only read the news on the subject, I didn't do a lot of research and that was months ago when this was relevant, so I may be off on some points.

It will increase individual empowerment because it provides a non-competative alternative to anchor the market. For example, the USPS is a state-funded alternative to the privately owned UPS and Fed Ex. Poor users, or users who are not inclined to hold postage as a priority can pay at the bottom of the market for USPS, while wealthier users, or users who value timely package delivery can opt for UPS or Fed Ex.

It will not decrease government control. But I happen to be of the opinion that there is not enough government regulation in heathcare, and that insurance companies have gone on too long refusing to treat their customers. All too often we pay out of pocket for medical care while paying to insurance at the same time, which is total bullshit.

Saving money will come in the form of better preventative care, which will result in less serious illnesses, and virtually no emergency room visits for non-emergency healthcare. Preventative care is much less expensive than emergency care. It will also save the individual money because the healthcare companies will have price competition from the government to contend with, lowering costs all around.

[J!MMY]

A business has a right (1st amendment) to express an opinion. I agree with obamacare it forces more people to pick a health care provider from a CORPORATION, so corporations must not be that bad!!!.

[wolfwood79]

this.

Originally Posted by DWarrior

I won't boycott just because it's the only supermarket I can get to conveniently. Sorry gays.

[funnygurl1979]

I live in Canada and we don't have a Target but we have a Walmart. It's hard to boycott some cheapo stores especially when your poor and they have some crazy sales.

[rachel]

I'm always really irritated by people who are so quick to jump on the hate bandwagon. The only reason why you're mad about Target is because someone happened to report it. Good corporations don't exist. They are all bad. If you dig deep I'm sure you'll find this kind of funding done by all sorts of companies you love. Not to mention that Target doesn't care whether you buy your toothpaste there or not because they're making money regardless.

[Scorpion]

Cost of Healthcare mostly wont change is my guess. Its all a shell game. Here are my points.
1. Much of the media say people don't go to the doctor because of cost. But most of the people who I know don't go to the doctor because they don't want to or its a "hastle". I don't think free healthcare will increase doctor visits so emergency room visits wont go down significantly. To say otherwise is conjector as is my point.
2. Currently those without health insurance use Medicade and Medicare paid for by the us tax payers. Reduce the people on that and move them to the same company I get my healthcare insurance from and its borowing from Peter to pay Paul. Unless you beleive the public insurance will work better then governement run inurance. If you believe that I hope you don't have GICO (Government Insurance Company).
3. the entire bill was shot full of holes that would have helped the system.
3a drop Medicare and Medicade
3b Give GICO the abiltity to provide Health Insurance (yes a government option but run by an indipendent run company)

Like so many good ideas it gets gutted by special interests, political pundents and "public opinion".

[Scorpion]

To say all corporations are bad is ignorant. Corporations are run by people, all people are not bad. Corps have a disadvantage in that the people running have the advantage of being short sighted. It's up to the affected public to ensure corporations consider impacts as well as benifits.
Take vacines, they save millions of lives and yet there are a small % of people who have reactions that can be detrimental even deadly. Vacines are not "Bad".
Additionally, some people who run companies have differing opinions than you. Maybe you are the bad one?

[Scorpion]

GEICO=Government Employee Insurance COmpany

[Bunky]

Originally Posted by marina

Do you think a pro-gay boycott of target is justified, yes or no?

Justified? What do you mean by that?

Those who feel the need to boycott are attempting to send a message. If there are enough people who care where target donates its money, the company will feel an impact and respond. Their response would likely be to no longer donate money to political causes. That lose of money would mean certain political groups would have a harder time campaigning, effecting an potential change in the political climate.

If boycotting Target would make it easier to legalize gay marriage, and you want to support gay marriage, why not boycott Target?

What exactly is the moral downside to boycotting that they require some other "justification?" If I paying a buddy to mow my lawn, only to find out he was giving all that money to someone I hated, I'd pay someone else to mow my lawn. It's my money and I don't need to justify how I spend it.

In the end though, boycotting is such a bother and I'm rather apathetic.

[rachel]

Originally Posted by Scorpion

To say all corporations are bad is ignorant. Corporations are run by people, all people are not bad. Corps have a disadvantage in that the people running have the advantage of being short sighted. It's up to the affected public to ensure corporations consider impacts as well as benifits.
Take vacines, they save millions of lives and yet there are a small % of people who have reactions that can be detrimental even deadly. Vacines are not "Bad".
Additionally, some people who run companies have differing opinions than you. Maybe you are the bad one?

Bullshit. The idea that corporations care about anyone is an illusion. The only thing that matters to Target is making money. They don't sell a brand of toothpaste because it's a good product that they stand behind. They sell it because they can buy it cheap and sell it to you at a marked up price. Corporations are greedy and unlike Gordon Gekko I don't think greed is good.