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Old 08-02-2008, 11:10 PM   #131 (permalink)
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You said it better than anything. I concur my friend.
I should have said that my beliefs or lack thereof, but you get the point. Thanks Rhi.
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Old 08-03-2008, 02:05 AM   #132 (permalink)
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Atheist.

I respect everyone's beliefs as long as they keep religion out of schools, politics and don't let it affect other peoples normal everyday life.

Thankfully, I live in Australia and religion is really not an issue here.
Nobody gives a fuck.
Separation of church and state never has to be debated.
They are separate and will and always should be.
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Old 08-03-2008, 02:51 AM   #133 (permalink)
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Atheist.

I respect everyone's beliefs as long as they keep religion out of schools, politics and don't let it affect other peoples normal everyday life.

Thankfully, I live in Australia and religion is really not an issue here.
Nobody gives a fuck.
Separation of church and state never has to be debated.
They are separate and will and always should be.
What is the worst that could happen if church and state were not separated?
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Old 08-03-2008, 03:02 AM   #134 (permalink)
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What is the worst that could happen if church and state were not separated?
The head of the church declares that any non believers must be killed?

The church forces the government to enforce its it morals.

etc..

Having church and state not separated essentially means you would no longer be a democracy, this is probably fine for those who are part of the church which is allied with the government, but from the point of view of someone not in the church, its pretty disgusting.
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Old 08-03-2008, 03:09 AM   #135 (permalink)
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What is the worst that could happen if church and state were not separated?
Everything that is happening in your country right now could happen.
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Old 08-03-2008, 03:20 AM   #136 (permalink)
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What is the worst that could happen if church and state were not separated?
The funny thing is, this country (the USA) was founded on the premise that church and state should be seperated.

Anytime you have a religion influencing and creating the laws, there will be descrimination towards open religious choices, as well as the general freedoms we have in our country.

There are many things that certain religions observe, that other religions find offensive, and its unfair for these things to be pushed onto a people by a collaboration of church and state.
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Old 08-03-2008, 03:21 AM   #137 (permalink)
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What is the worst that could happen if church and state were not separated?
You have heard of the Catholic Inquisitions I presume.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquisition
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition

The Taliban in Afghanistan before we (the Allied Forces) kicked them out.
Iran.
Strict implementation of Sharia law in some Islamic nations.

Do I need to go on?

But I don't even need to go to this extreme.
We don't want religion dictating what our children are taught.
This can only make society dumber.
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Old 08-03-2008, 06:32 AM   #138 (permalink)
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You have heard of the Catholic Inquisitions I presume.
*shakes head* ... it had to be done

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Old 08-03-2008, 06:41 AM   #139 (permalink)
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What is the worst that could happen if church and state were not separated?
You do realize the time that church controlled everything
is known as the Dark Ages, right?
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Old 08-03-2008, 06:59 AM   #140 (permalink)
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noone in my immediate family is religious... im probably the most really. Im pagan, and have a tatt of a pentagram on my hip. I got the concept of my grandmother, who was originally a devoute christian until my grandfather died, then she became a druid. She had always had non-christian tendancies. She had crystals all around the house. And she practised a lot of natural medicine, and was a massage therapist (which is where i get my talents with my hands from )

but yeah. Thanks to my grandmother, im pagan..

but i go to a catholic uni... and those peeps are fucked up.. no offence
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