1191: The Morning After

[Brianna]

Originally Posted by MadMaddy

I agree with you, I think Keith said something like this on the show too. I have Brain Damage though so my short term memory is fucked so maybe not.

I am really happy they are going to continue because listening to this show has helped me through some really shitty few years. If we can't take their personal issues man we really should not be fit to live.

Loves to them both

MadMaddy, I'm not sure if this was mentioned on the show or not because I haven't yet heard it but am dying to hear what was said. I have never wanted to hear a KATG show so badly before! I'm downloading now. Thank you, Keith and Chemda for getting it up so fast.

[Rhian]

Originally Posted by Preston Buttons

Maybe it's just co-relation but I found the show really hit a professional stride in the past year and a half.

Fuck all the crybabies that don't understand relationships or contracts. Or life.

This.

Originally Posted by Preston Buttons

Let's be clear for the dummies: I'm not saying the show sucked before a year and a half ago. I didn't start listening in 2005 and stay listening for no reason.

Also this.

[DionJ]

Ok, here's an interesting question I wouldn't mind an answer to. Do you (Keith and Chemda) think that the contractual obligation to appear together helped you to push through your differences and continue to have a friendly relationship?

I think that perhaps many relationships end badly because people quit so quickly and run in opposite directions. Perhaps if they could have talked through their issues, they could remain somewhat of friends. After all, once you date someone, they must be good enough to at least be friends with.

[McNally]

Originally Posted by bofadeeznizzles

Just trying to be fair to the other side here.

Man, fuck the other side. What is this, the U.N.?

Edited to say: No offense to you yourself. I find you charming.

[dEadERest]

stressful day, work issues, family vehicles, money . . but I could only think about getting here, voting in the poll before I listened and then hearing the show

*joy*

[punk'n]

I haven't even heard the show yet but I have been told that they read my snatchy comment so I'm here to not defend, but explain.

I was angry at first, and quite frankly, I'm surprised and impressed that I was in the vast minority. My gut reaction was selfish, and douchey. To be fair, I did post a nice message wishing them the best the next day, but it was lost in 115 pages of that show's thread. I have never been anything but honest on these forums so I posted right away what I was thinking when I should've probably waited. After 24 hours, and a talking-to from the BF, I much better understood their position and I was immediately sorry for my initial freak out. Oh wells, we all make mistakes.

Long live KATG.

[Bucho]

Originally Posted by bofadeeznizzles

I think this boils down to philosophical difference. I, like some, believe that everyone owes a duty of respect to everyone else. With that respect comes honesty. So, I get why people think Keith and Chemda owe them honesty. I think it's a vast oversimplification to just be able to say "I don't owe you anything" and then "oh yeah, i've been pissing in your applejuice for some time now" and expect everyone to be ok with it.

That said, I agree that they do great work and they had to do what they had to do. Just trying to be fair to the other side here.

It's nice that you try to be fair to the other side Bofadeeznizzles. It seems like your heart might be in the right place. But you want to know what the real "vast oversimplification" is? Yes you do. The real vast oversimplification is the statement that "with that respect comes honesty".

Where we agree is that I, like you and some, like the idea that everyone owes a duty of respect to everyone else. It's a version of the societal contract of sorts and makes the world a better place. Where we don't see eye to eye is that I take the sentence literally. Everyone owes everyone else a duty of respect. That means people owe us respect but it also means we owe them respect.

See, I don't hold the vastly simplistic view that with respect comes honesty. I have the view that part of the respect we owe each other also relates to the right to privacy. The entitled and deluded of the world only see it as a one way thing. They don't see that as much as they think KATG owes them respect, they actually owe KATG the respect that goes with letting other people make the choice of what they share about their personal lives.

Bottom line is that if you think that entertainers choosing to keep parts of their private life private, even if they have to lie to you to do so, is analogous to them pissing in your apple juice then you're labouring under quite a comical delusion. Their lie ruins nothing. Them pissing in your apple juice would ruin your apple juice. It's a vastly simplistic and misguided comparison. But funny.

[Bucho]

Originally Posted by punk'n

I haven't even heard the show yet but I have been told that they read my snatchy comment so I'm here to not defend, but explain.

I was angry at first, and quite frankly, I'm surprised and impressed that I was in the vast minority. My gut reaction was selfish, and douchey. To be fair, I did post a nice message wishing them the best the next day, but it was lost in 115 pages of that show's thread. I have never been anything but honest on these forums so I posted right away what I was thinking when I should've probably waited. After 24 hours, and a talking-to from the BF, I much better understood their position and I was immediately sorry for my initial freak out. Oh wells, we all make mistakes.

Long live KATG.

I still knew you were awesome.

[punk'n]

Originally Posted by Bucho

I still knew you were awesome.

Tanks! I still loves the interwebs.

[Brad]

Does anyone else miss Jeremy?

/zing.