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Old 09-10-2010, 05:10 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I'm okay with the Islamic Cultural Center because I feel that it does sort of hint toward our truest American ideals of religious freedom. But I guess the slight paradox I see in both situations is this:

How can both sides make the same argument about extremist being outraged because they are very sensitive to this issue? On the one hand you have people for the mosque saying if it doesn't happen the terrorist will be angrier than they are now. Cause you know we should totally do shit in America based on the emotions of extremist who will hate us no matter what.

Then the people against the Islamic Cultural Center are saying it should be there cause some extreme factions of America won't be able to handle the building being there.

It would be nice if people wouldn't be so damned sensitive but I really wish both sides would stop using the most sensitive extremes of the public to justify their own beliefs.

All that being said I don't find it as clear cut an issue as some people do. Maybe Trump buys the land instead and we'll never have to know who was right.
I like it.

I feel they have the right, but maybe someone more legit should fund it. Someone not currently a criminal.

And it is kind of like saying, "If you don't give me your money, these extremists will beat you." Now you're the man making the threats, not the terrorists.
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Old 09-10-2010, 05:31 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I like it.

I feel they have the right, but maybe someone more legit should fund it. Someone not currently a criminal.

And it is kind of like saying, "If you don't give me your money, these extremists will beat you." Now you're the man making the threats, not the terrorists.
So the dude is a criminal for sure? there has been a lot of slander thrown around. And everyone is so fucking partisan. Can't tell who's making shit up and who is legit.
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Old 09-10-2010, 05:33 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Wouldn't want to read Keith's OP or anything before bitching, eh?

I never read his posts.
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Old 09-10-2010, 07:05 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Great to hear John back on the show, it was so long between drinks I forgot how fun he is. Cool sister too.

Also, freedom of religion is as American as apple pie isn't it? No matter how many arguments I hear from both sides it still seems fundamentally un-American to oppose the Islamic center being built a couple of blocks away from the WTC site simply because it's Islamic.

And why do so many of the same people who shout from the hilltops about the Bill Of Rights in respect to gun ownership seem to want to piss all over it in respect to freedom of religion?
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Old 09-10-2010, 10:44 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I dont see why thethreat of a backlash from islam should be something that scares America into doing something. They have been despising and hating the US simply beacuse they refuse to bow down to Islam. Caving in would just demonstrate that we have become their doormat.
In my opinion, holding up the rights guaranteed by the first amendment isn't "caving." Fighting two wars against predominantly Muslim countries hardly makes us their doormat. There is a difference between tolerance and servitude.
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So the dude is a criminal for sure? there has been a lot of slander thrown around. And everyone is so fucking partisan. Can't tell who's making shit up and who is legit.
Yes. Tax evasion is criminal.
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Yes. Tax evasion is criminal.
And he's been convicted of this? Or is it just an accusation?
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I freaking HATE football for a few reasons. Before I start, I acknowledge that NOT ALL FOOTBALL FANS ARE LIKE THIS. just the majority I've met.

My dad is a huge asshole when he watches football. He yells at the tv, threatens bodily harm if you walk in front of the tv, and is a complete dick if his team doesn't win. We would have to actively avoid him if that happened as any little bullshit thing would set him off. There was one time he threw a toy and it hit my brother in the face and my dad got pissed that my brother started crying. So that definitly ruined it for me.

Also, I live in Indianapolis and ever since the Colts won the superbowl, they act like Peyton Manning is the new Jesus Christ. When they went to the superbowl this year, there was a picture floating around with the team logo floating around numerous offices (I saw it both at Eli Lilly AND the VA) with the caption "Hurricane Manning is on the way". Pretty poor taste, especially hanging in places of work (I saw the hurricane manning on the Eli Lilly tvs which broadcasts in ALL of their offices). Plus I get shit all the time when I say that no, I will not be watching the game. Its like a fucking cock sprouted on my forehead about to ejaculate into their gaping mouths.

So yeah, definitly not a fan of football.
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Also, freedom of religion is as American as apple pie isn't it? No matter how many arguments I hear from both sides it still seems fundamentally un-American to oppose the Islamic center being built a couple of blocks away from the WTC site simply because it's Islamic.

THANK you! Also, mosques are being attacked across the country. The construction equipment at the Murfreesboro, TN project was firebombed just two weeks ago. Clearly, TN is also too close to Ground Zero.


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So yeah, definitly not a fan of football.
I've always been "meh" about it but since Favre went to the Vikings football season in Wisconsin has been unbearable. So on Thursday of this week one group wore their purple and gold, and then on Friday the Packer fans were on parade. If there is a team that both fans hate let me know because I'm buying one of those jerseys just to fuck with them.
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All that being said I don't find it as clear cut an issue as some people do. Maybe Trump buys the land instead and we'll never have to know who was right.
I like you more and more. But also for the whole post not just this point...But it leads me to my solution.

Ban religion. That will fix this entirely, heh. It's wrong and everyone has the right. Fuck do I care. But this whole thing just is so hilarious for the wrong reasons. I'm fucking loving it. Send in Trump, send in Joe Francis; this can only get funnier.
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