1278: Yinz vs. Jag Offs

[Kupotek]

Obviously by the replies my post has been severely misunderstood by this forum. I have nothing against nudity, I thought that was pretty clear, apparently not. And yet my reading comprehension is being attacked, and people think namecalling is skillful communication? It's not nudity I was railing against, but those who use nudity to get votes in some online contest. I applauded Viola's stance, not because I think nudity is wrong, I'm not a fool or a jackass as was so unskillfully thrown about this thread. Not the best way to evolve a conversation... nor do I use a thesaurus for my thoughts, that's just ridiculous, and more conversational incompetence.

It's not what you show it's why you do that was my point. Just as it's not what you steal but who you steal from. And yet suddenly I'm told I expect women to wear burqas, that's fucking ludicrous.

Andy... your post is at least civil, the first civil response in this thread actually... so thank you for that.

[andyoureuglytoo]

No problem. Even if everyone else thinks I'm a jaggoff for it. Those of us from NE Ohio have to stick together.

I do see your point. And might even agree with it.

But isn't this whole contest really just exploitation? It's about using your body in whatever way you can to get the most votes.

That being said: Bring on the dick pics.

[EatTheWeak]

*sigh*

First, go back and reread my initial response. I didn't say you were specifically calling for the wearing of burqas, because you absolutely weren't, but that your thinking is along the same spectrum that includes burqas at the extreme end, because it absolutely is. This is why your reading comprehension is being attacked. Because it is poor.

Okay, you don't find anything wrong with nudity as a concept, but you still object to how some women have employed it. You believe it is "wrong" to use nudity as a means to acquire votes in an online contest. Is this a fair reading of your position? What then constitutes a "right' use of nudity? And where's the midpoint between the two? It's right and proper that cleavage be used to garner votes, but not nipples? Again, what portions of the anatomy are acceptable to photograph in an online contest and which portions are not? You object to the "why" behind these nude photographs. Very well - what underlying "whys" regarding nudity would you not object to? If this use of nudity is wrong, what uses are right? And by what authority to you get to determine the rightness and wrongness of each instance of nudity?

[Kupotek]

Originally Posted by andyoureuglytoo

I do see your point. And might even agree with it.

Thanks, I think I can see how I was misunderstood in this thread, and can understand that it might seem like I am
backhand insulting those who are genuinely partaking in good fun, but that wasn't what I was referring.

Originally Posted by EatTheWeak

*sigh*

First, go back and reread my initial response. I didn't say you were specifically calling for the wearing of burqas, because you absolutely weren't, but that your thinking is along the same spectrum that includes burqas at the extreme end, because it absolutely is. This is why your reading comprehension is being attacked. Because it is poor.

Okay, you don't find anything wrong with nudity as a concept, but you still object to how some women have employed it. You believe it is "wrong" to use nudity as a means to acquire votes in an online contest. Is this a fair reading of your position? What then constitutes a "right' use of nudity? And where's the midpoint between the two? It's right and proper that cleavage be used to garner votes, but not nipples? Again, what portions of the anatomy are acceptable to photograph in an online contest and which portions are not? You object to the "why" behind these nude photographs. Very well - what underlying "whys" regarding nudity would you not object to? If this use of nudity is wrong, what uses are right? And by what authority to you get to determine the rightness and wrongness of each instance of nudity?

I'm not really a fan of appearance contests as a whole, whether it's online microcosmic podcast contests, or Miss Universe. This cover of a book is more important than content is endemic in our American culture, where Being is overlooked for how we look.

It goes so deeply into every aspect of our culture, from ex-models as newscasters, to sex tapes and politics. We all eat the lie and feed back into this superficial culture every day... nudity can be a wonderfully healthy way to overcome our own self consciousness and fears, but it can also simply be another example of how misguided our society is.

[Junkenstein]

Originally Posted by andyoureuglytoo

But isn't this whole contest really just exploitation? It's about using your body in whatever way you can to get the most votes.

Exploitation

" Utilization of another person or group for selfish purposes"

If there was somebody who madfe anyone psy to post their pics or got a lucre from it, i'd see your point.

But everyone, boys and girls, did it on their own choice, knew that they could win or loose on similar terms, yet decided to do it anyway. Because they are confident in their own looks or they just needed the boost of confidence that they deserve.

No one in the contest was exploited. And no you're not a jagoff for thinking this, you're mostly misinterpreting the ideas behind the contest and behind exploitation.

The Hottest Girl contest is a joyous feast of girls showing their own sexiness, confidence and people appreciating it, boosting it up with competition (which is normal and healthy). There's nothing wrong or exploitative in that. No argument about it.

[punk'n]

Originally Posted by Kupotek

I have a lot more respect for you for not showing all, than the girls who exploit their own bodies that only serve to dumb down every aspect of our culture, media, their own integrity and honor. I love girls, don't get me wrong, I have my favorite porn no less, but the microcosm of some girl showing a tit for a vote makes me more sick than any crazy weird shit I've seen in porn. Correction: most porn.

Are you fat? You can tell me....it's ok.

Haters gonna hate...sheesh.

[Kupotek]

Originally Posted by punk'n

Are you fat? You can tell me....it's ok.

rofl no I'm not fat, I just care about things... is that okay with you? Why is it I must be fat or jealous because I care about the content of people over their looks? Oh right, because that's a foreign thing our culture.

[punk'n]

Originally Posted by Kupotek

rofl no I'm not fat, I just care about things... is that okay with you? Why is it I must be fat or jealous because I care about the content of people over their looks? Oh right, because that's a foreign thing our culture.

You're being judgey. It's not typically a trait of non-jealous people. And implying that these girls have no content is silly goose. You obviously don't know any of us. KATG girls are some of the sweetest people on the planet.

[Kupotek]

I never said any of the girls in the contest were doing this though, I simply applauded one girl for what she said... this has been completely blown out of proportion.

[Lanfear]

Originally Posted by Kupotek

Thanks, I think I can see how I was misunderstood in this thread, and can understand that it might seem like I am
backhand insulting those who are genuinely partaking in good fun, but that wasn't what I was referring.




I'm not really a fan of appearance contests as a whole, whether it's online microcosmic podcast contests, or Miss Universe. This cover of a book is more important than content is endemic in our American culture, where Being is overlooked for how we look.

It goes so deeply into every aspect of our culture, from ex-models as newscasters, to sex tapes and politics. We all eat the lie and feed back into this superficial culture every day... nudity can be a wonderfully healthy way to overcome our own self consciousness and fears, but it can also simply be another example of how misguided our society is.

I think its really sad that you think so bad about your fellow males and your fellow Americans by claiming that showing nipples would be the main reason to convince them to vote for a girl. But good for you that you are such a well rounded sophisticated human being and judge people only on their inner beauty (unless they are porn stars of course)

But thanks for making me feel good about being from Europe and a girl. I am totes looking forward to being exploited by everybody next year