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Old 11-11-2010, 01:18 PM   #51 (permalink)
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And even if they go to a farmers market, which is probably the next best thing to growing your own, those are damn expensive and sometimes very far away..
I love farmers markets, and they can actually be super affordable if you buy what's in season. Of course this means adjusting your eating habits, but if you're really all for this kind of lifestyle, you can make it work.

As for me, I eat anything. If I get sick then I just made the wrong choice, I guess. Pretend it's Russian Roulette, but the shit-your-pants-if-you're-wrong version.
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Old 11-11-2010, 01:18 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Or this one, smoking to protect your throat and keep you from getting fat?
Maybe it's to help you get toasted?
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My wife grew up in Detroit and we lived in Livonia before we moved to the East Coast. This video is a couple of years old --

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So 8 Mile says the guy grew up "on the wrong side of Detroit's 8 mile" but the whole place seems like shit. What's the wrong side like, do you just instantly get robbed?
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Old 11-11-2010, 09:54 PM   #55 (permalink)
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I think guest Keith is really funny. His CD is really great, particularly the track you played. I have a simple name, but living in Asia, people have all sorts of problems with it and often ask for spellings. If I am in the mood I will spell them a random word instead, and tell them it's pronounced "Matthew".

Regarding another comment he made about the date 10-11-10 (I use the British date order of Day, Month, Year), on Wednesday I wound up my IT manager about it. The conversation went like this, I thought Keith M would appreciate:

Me: "Hung, I just typed the date 101110 into my computer, and now all my fonts are green"

Him: "Huh? Strange..."

Me: "Yes, 'cos I thought it would all come out blue."

Him: "?????????? Can I get back to you?"

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Him: "Mr Matthew, Blue is #0000FF. Try that..... Slurp"
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Chemda is right, and mcdonalds is evil.
"Evil" seems to be commonly confused with "successful business". Every corporation has the same intentions, but nobody ever thinks corporations are evil until they become the big dog on top.

The concept of "business" at its purest form is entirely about a profitable barter. If someone has a problem with McDonald's business model, the problem they have has less to do with McDonald's itself and more to do with the corporate flowers that sprout from capitalist soil.

It seems odd to me that people are so willing to call something evil for being good at what our society encourages. Maybe save "evil" for shit that actually matters? Or for something the word accurately represents? McDonald's is just a place that will give me shitty burgers really quickly if I give them small amounts of money. They'll sell me a billion burgers if I have the amount of money they require. They don't give a fuck if I eat so many burgers I literally explode. That's not evil.

McDonald's only becomes evil once someone believes in the idea that Americans are so thoroughly helpless and witless that the most worthless turd of a toy is enough for a corporation to overpower their parenting. And if you believe that, I have to wonder why McDonald's is the thing you're choosing to fight in that situation.
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I currently live in the the middle of one of SDs large citys and have managed to not buy any of my produce lettice,cabbage, eggs, spinach, etc.,from grocery stores in the last two years despite the fact that i am feeding myself, my wife and four kids.
Do you have a backyard where you live? I'm desperate to start a garden, but we don't even have the space to have a vertical garden.

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I love farmers markets, and they can actually be super affordable if you buy what's in season. Of course this means adjusting your eating habits, but if you're really all for this kind of lifestyle, you can make it work.
Maybe because we're in LA and it's trendy to shop at farmers markets, or because we have to drive 30 miles one way to get to the good weekend markets since we work all week, but it was costing us twice as much to shop at farmers markets as it does to shop at Trader Joe's.
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Maybe because we're in LA and it's trendy to shop at farmers markets, or because we have to drive 30 miles one way to get to the good weekend markets since we work all week, but it was costing us twice as much to shop at farmers markets as it does to shop at Trader Joe's.
Oh, I see. I'm right on the edge of a small town in the middle of the boonies, so it's a bit easier. There's one that I can walk to from my house in only a couple of minutes, but they're closed for the season.
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So 8 Mile says the guy grew up "on the wrong side of Detroit's 8 mile" but the whole place seems like shit. What's the wrong side like, do you just instantly get robbed?

8 Mile Rd is the northern border of Detroit. The suburbs just to the north are not exactly a walk in the park, either. 8 Mile is also where most of the strip clubs are.

As far as getting instantly robbed, it never happened to me while I was living in the area and some of that time I did live in the city of Detroit. Most 12 years I worked inside the city at least a few days a week. You just have to not be stupid and paint a target on your back.
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"Evil" seems to be commonly confused with "successful business"...

McDonald's is just a place that will give me shitty burgers really quickly if I give them small amounts of money. They'll sell me a billion burgers if I have the amount of money they require. They don't give a fuck if I eat so many burgers I literally explode. That's not evil.
Yes, McDonald's isn't evil, only its burgers are.

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