1398: Ridiculous

[jacey.ATX]

Originally Posted by Junkenstein

i dunno. i think genderless pronouns work if there are gendelress people. but a transgender is part of the gender they feel like they're part of. Chas Bono and Lucas Silveira are men, so they're "He". A homosexual man who still feels like a men is a he.

going genderless feels such a cop out. its like using "it". kinda rude.

I know it's hard to understand, Junk-- I don't fully understand it and I have researched the subject quite a bit-- but there are people who feel like they are neither one nor the other gender. They feel like they are a third gender, or they feel like they are parts of both, to the point where they don't want to define themselves as one or the other.

It's a totally different thing from what it is to be transgender. I'm not talking about people who want to transition to another gender. I'm talking about a very very small percentage of people in the modern western world, who don't want to be either gender at all. It was more common in Native American cultures, and is much more common in places like India and Thailand. Google "third gender" if you're interested.

[jacey.ATX]

Originally Posted by Rufio

I wrote this in reference to keiths and chemdas discussion of whether or not college is a waste of time/money. Stop projecting.

That's why I asked. Be nice.

I agree with some of your points about college seeming less important now. It feels like it requires a Master's degree to be competitive in today's job market, in many cases. It seems that, historically, the bar is raised over time. When my mother was my age, having an associate's degree was a big deal. But for me, I didn't really feel like I knew what I was doing without a Master's. But, of course, it depends on your field of study. And your aspirations. There will always be entrepreneurs like Keith and Chemda, who don't need a degree, because they figure things out for themselves. And of course, skilled laborers who mostly need experience to develop expertise.

But I think you're right about Bachelor's degrees. Unless they afford very specific training, they seem pretty useless. I know my first degree taught me pretty much nothing. I learned more in high school.

[Junkenstein]

Originally Posted by jacey.ATX

It's a totally different thing from what it is to be transgender. I'm not talking about people who want to transition to another gender. I'm talking about a very very small percentage of people in the modern western world, who don't want to be either gender at all. It was more common in Native American cultures, and is much more common in places like India and Thailand. Google "third gender" if you're interested.

ok, now you got me hooked you foxy. I always thought that the Third Gender included ladyboys or non-op transexuals, but i guessed they were women in trransition. now i wanna know more, gotta find a book.

[Rufio]

Originally Posted by jacey.ATX

That's why I asked. Be nice.

I agree with some of your points about college seeming less important now. It feels like it requires a Master's degree to be competitive in today's job market, in many cases. It seems that, historically, the bar is raised over time. When my mother was my age, having an associate's degree was a big deal. But for me, I didn't really feel like I knew what I was doing without a Master's. But, of course, it depends on your field of study. And your aspirations. There will always be entrepreneurs like Keith and Chemda, who don't need a degree, because they figure things out for themselves. And of course, skilled laborers who mostly need experience to develop expertise.

But I think you're right about Bachelor's degrees. Unless they afford very specific training, they seem pretty useless. I know my first degree taught me pretty much nothing. I learned more in high school.

It just bothers me when people make blanket statements about college being useless due to their experience with people with degrees. College is not a waste of time, its just that way too many people go into liberal arts because its an "easy" major. Then when they graduate and try to find jobs they realize that there are not enough jobs for them and they end up doing jobs that honestly dont require a college education except now they have 4 years worth of college loans to pay off.

[jacey.ATX]

Originally Posted by Junkenstein

ok, now you got me hooked you foxy. I always thought that the Third Gender included ladyboys or non-op transexuals, but i guessed they were women in trransition. now i wanna know more, gotta find a book.

Neutrois - Home
This website is very helpful, and also lists some promising reading materials.

genderqueer
And this is helpful, too. It's a blog where indviduals who identify as genderqueer submit pics and messages. It helped me to understand what being genderqueer can look and sound like.

I want to be clear that I don't consider myself to be an expert on these issues. I am a (mostly) hetero, female-bodied/female-minded person (cisgender is the technical term) and I have only done research for a few school projects, here and there. But I do consider myself an advocate for sexual minorities, and I know some very brilliant, radical queer people from whom I've learned a great deal. So, I try to share what I know, knowing that I have a lot to learn, and that there is a lot that I can never truly understand.

[hbomb_marlowe]

I'm definately not a nurse, although I am trained with certain medical issues, as I understand those born such as storm, they have both the dong and the vag... I'm sure we all know this, however-onething that I want to clarify is that my wife brought up a very valid point last night, is that when storm is older or people such as storm that are old enough to do so, does that mean that one night they can go out and bone a chick and then 20 minutes later or the next night or whatever go out there and Get boned by a guy?

[DWarrior]

Originally Posted by hbomb_marlowe

I'm definately not a nurse, although I am trained with certain medical issues, as I understand those born such as storm, they have both the dong and the vag... I'm sure we all know this, however-onething that I want to clarify is that my wife brought up a very valid point last night, is that when storm is older or people such as storm that are old enough to do so, does that mean that one night they can go out and bone a chick and then 20 minutes later or the next night or whatever go out there and Get boned by a guy?

I'd just stay home and bone myself.

[hbomb_marlowe]

Very true, but alas- isn't that the same question as if u could suck your own dick would u do it and does that make u gay?

[DWarrior]

Originally Posted by hbomb_marlowe

Very true, but alas- isn't that the same question as if u could suck your own dick would u do it and does that make u gay?

As far as I know, that's bragworthy. I suppose you'd lose points if you swallow.

Also, if you have both parts, you can't really be gay for fucking yourself.

[hbomb_marlowe]

So in ur perspective its masturbation- but if u do have both and u fuck ur snatch with ur dick, that's the same way as a guy fucking themselves in the ass... Personally, I say that sucking a dick or fucking urself in the ass regardless if its your own or not, is gay. Keep in mind I'm not a homophobe so don't start pointing fingers and labeling. Especially if those fingers are in ur ass.