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08-11-2011, 11:32 PM | #51 (permalink) |
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Let's wait a bit and see the suicide statistics.
Half the suicide methods you listed are less lethal than jumping off a bridge. |
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I don't think you can say they're less lethal. It's just that they may require a bit more effort, and some of them can be saved if intervention is notified. But it's not any LESS lethal to drive your car off a bridge than it is to jump, to a bullet to the brain.
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Knives and pills have solid survival rates. Guns are hard to get. The bridge is on the way to class. |
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Well, regardless my argument isn't the lethal-ness of bridges. It is that the net isn't going to influence the suicide rates because the problem isn't the lack of net but whatever is going on for that individual...
I'm sure there are many ways for these students to kill themselves on their walk to school. It's not like that suicidal kid who just failed his exam is going to be like "FUCK! They put up a NET!?! Now, I'll never be able to kill myself!!" ... he will find a way, if he is really intent on dying.
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I think a majority has to do with liability and cost. To give them one shred of the benefit of the doubt I have a friend who works on the Golden Gate Bridge and the sheer number of people who jump off that is appalling. Maybe the thinking is by deterring the top location the person will have time to reconsider, however I honestly think 99% of it has to do with basically saying "we don't charge a toll on your sleeping pills, please don't jump off our bridge". |
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They put a shit load of money into counseling but your talking about 18 - 25 year old morons who are nothing but a giant bubble of hormones and drama, they don't go get the counseling. Nets are kind of stupid but hey at least the rest of us don't have to see the body's floating down the river
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The theory behind the net is not to deter people who are going on a stroll past an un-netted bridge. And while I don't know much about the psychology behind suicide attempts, I would bet that if someone musters up the courage to jump off the bridge and arrives to see a net, that person will probably need a few days to get the courage to try something different and might even find another way to deal with his or her problems. Quote:
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All that being said, I have no idea if the net is effective or how the associated costs compare to any other methods of suicide prevention. But I can't assume that this is the least effective way to prevent or deter suicide, or that this is the only tactic they are employing (suicide hotlines, counseling, etc.). |
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